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Subject: Re: Djenghis in cct4

Author: Miguel A. Ballicora

Date: 11:35:16 01/16/02

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On January 16, 2002 at 14:21:14, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 16, 2002 at 05:55:11, Bas Hamstra wrote:
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>>On January 16, 2002 at 05:00:48, Ed Schröder wrote:
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>>>On January 14, 2002 at 22:59:00, jefkaan wrote:
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>>>>On January 14, 2002 at 19:17:02, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
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>>>>>i see bookbuilder in cct4. that is an interface made by
>>>>>Bas Hamstra sold to J.E.F. Kaan
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>>>>bullshit, bookbuilder is my handle on ICC,
>>>>based on a program which i indeed invented
>>>>to analyze chess openings.
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>>>I found this in one of your README files:
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>>>   programming (up till version 3.2 by Bas Hamstra),
>>>   ideas, testing,evaluation, & further development by K.E.C,
>>>   The Netherlands, further programming (3.8 etc.Michel Langeveld).
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>>>Maybe you can elaborate a bit about the origin of Bookbuilder?
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>>>About Djenghis, when did you start programming Djenghis? Maybe you can tell us a
>>>bit about your program? Type of search, q-search, hash tables etc. In other
>>>words write some convincing stuff Djenghis is yours and yours alone and not
>>>another clone, post some results of test positions or whatever, because I think
>>>in the current situation it is advisable to purify your name.
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>>>Ed
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>>Ridiculous... Now he is *advided* by a moderator to defend himself in public
>>against an personal attack without evidence. I clearly smell suspicion from you
>>here and that is *bad*.
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>>Tell me why you allow this? The guy has a 1800 program. Now if he gets a top 5
>>result in ICCCT4, T H E N ask questions. Not now.
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>_ABSOLUTELY_ _NOT_.
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>That is _the_ wrong way to handle this.  IE "wait and see."  If the entry is
>phony then the _entire_ tournament is affected and the results are clearly
>tainted.
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>Participant problems must be resolved _prior_ to the start.  not _after_
>it is over.  By then it is too late...
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>Asking someone to explain some internal details about their program is not
>"out of bounds".  Again, at ICCA events this is required on the entry form
>_anyway_.

Participants should not have the right to ask anything. They should report
a possible problem to a TD.

Miguel


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>>>>>Now i see Jan Kaan join CCT4 with bookbuilder under the name 'djenghis 0.05'.
>>>>>He is mentioned as 'author' from Djenghis. >This is not correct.
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>>>>Well, you could have asked me before posting such nonsense.
>>>>I've programmed this engine myself, it now plays about
>>>>1900 rating; so the 'seed-reating' on the CCt-4 list
>>>>isnt correct (that was based on Yace, with which i played
>>>>many games with the 'bookbuilder' handle..) Currently
>>>>with Djenghis i only play unrated games for testing.
>>>>best regards,
>>>>jefk
>>>>PS interesting remark about me that i 'cannot program at all';
>>>>in fact when you only were eight, i already programmed my
>>>>first research program in Fortran for an IBM mainframe,
>>>>during a professional assignment in Houston, USA.



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