Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 12:16:16 01/16/02
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On January 16, 2002 at 07:43:31, Albert Silver wrote:
>On January 16, 2002 at 03:15:26, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On January 16, 2002 at 03:13:26, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On January 16, 2002 at 02:36:49, pavel wrote:
>>>[snip]
>>>>1...Be7 2.0-0 a6 3.Ba4 Nf6 4.Bh6 b5 5.Nxc6 dxc6 6.Bc2 Bg4 7.f3 Bc5+ 8.Be3
>>>> +- (1.42) depth: 12/24 00:01:45 16743kN
>>>>1...Be7 2.0-0 a6 3.Bd3 Ne5 4.Bc2 d6 5.f4 Bd7 6.fxe5
>>>> +- (1.42) depth: 12/24 00:01:50 17446kN
>>>>1...Bf8 2.0-0 Nge7 3.Nxc6 Nxc6 4.Bxc6 bxc6 5.Be3 f6 6.f4 Ba6
>>>> +- (1.41) depth: 12/24 00:02:45 26578kN
>>>>1...Bf8 2.0-0 Nge7 3.Nxc6 Nxc6 4.Qd5 Bg7 5.Bg5 Ne7 6.Qc5 b6 7.Qb4
>>>> ± (1.15) depth: 12/24 00:03:35 35473kN
>>>>1...Bf8 2.0-0 Bg7 3.Nxc6 bxc6 4.Bc4 Ne7 5.Be3 0-0 6.Bd4 Rb8 7.Bxg7
>>>> ± (1.25) depth: 13/26 00:04:44 47027kN
>>>>1...Bf8 2.Nxc6 dxc6 3.Qxd8+ Kxd8 4.Be2 Be6 5.Be3 Bg7 6.0-0 Kc8 7.Rd1 Ne7 8.Nd2
>>>>Rd8 9.f4
>>>> ± (1.12) depth: 14/28 00:10:10 105134kN
>>>
>>>Now that's tantalizing! It seems we have another novelty.
>>>
>>>Maybe Slater or someone else with a supreme machine can give it a stomping and
>>>see what falls out of it.
>>>[D]r1bqkbnr/pppp1p1p/2n3p1/1B6/3NP3/8/PPP2PPP/RNBQK2R b KQkq - bm Bg7 Bf8 Qe7;
>>>c0 "Which is best?";
>>
>>Oops. Must be a different position that you analyzed, since the bishop is
>>already at f8?
>>
>>Or did I post the wrong position again.
>>
>>Augh.
>>:-|
>
>:-) You guys need more coffee is all. BTW, why not simply castle after Qe7?
Surely the best response.
Here is additional analysis by Pepito...
First, I ran the original position 25000 seconds using Pepito 1.46 and got this
result:
Pepito v1.46, Copyright (C) 2000-01 Carlos del Cacho
Pepito comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free
software, you can redistribute it and/or modify it under
the terms of the GNU General Public License as published
by the FSF; see file COPYING for details.
HASH_SIZE: 4194304 entries / 64.00 MB
PAWN_HASH_SIZE: 16384 entries / 0.19 MB
ECACHE_SIZE: 32768 entries / 0.50 MB
EGTB_PATH: e:\programme\winboard\nalimov
RMARGIN: -1000
USE_BOOK: yes
PRI_BOOK: Found
SEC_BOOK: Found
PRI_BOOK_FILE: plib
SEC_BOOK_FILE: slib
BOOK_RANDOM: yes
HASH_STORE_DEPTH: 1
Type "help" for a list of available commands.
Pepito> hash 256M
Pepito> post (debe ser potencia de 2):
Pepito> level 40 240000 240000
Pepito> epd
Introduzca fichero a cargar:
> q.epd
Tiempo por problema (segs) ? 25000
CONTROL_IN 20000
Son correctas: Bg7 Qe7
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
8 | *R | | *B | *Q | *K | *B | *N | *R |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
7 | *P | *P | *P | *P | | *P | | *P |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
6 | | | *N | | | | *P | |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
5 | | B | | | | | | |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
4 | | | | N | P | | | |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
3 | | | | | | | | |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
2 | P | P | P | | | P | P | P |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
1 | R | N | B | Q | K | | | R |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
a b c d e f g h
5 -24 95 21901 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-b4 Bc1-g5 Bb4xc3 b2xc3 O-O
5 -24 99 34248 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-b4 Bc1-g5 Bb4xc3 b2xc3 O-O
6 -25 105 53811 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-b4 Bc1-g5 Bb4xc3 b2xc3 h6 Nd4xc6
b7xc6
6 -25 119 100262 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-b4 Bc1-g5 Bb4xc3 b2xc3 h6 Nd4xc6
b7xc6
7 -30 142 179927 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-b4 Bc1-g5 h6 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bg5xf6
Qd8xf6
7 -29 210 412754 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 d7xc6 Qd1xd8 Ke8xd8 Bb5-c4 Kd8-e8 O-O
Ng8-e7 Nb1-c3 Bg7xc3 b2xc3
7 -29 217 435379 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 d7xc6 Qd1xd8 Ke8xd8 Bb5-c4 Kd8-e8 O-O
Ng8-e7 Nb1-c3 Bg7xc3 b2xc3
8 -26 323 808125 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-c4 Ra8-b8 Qd1-f3 Qd8-f6 Qf3xf6
Ng8xf6 Nb1-c3
8 -26 418 1130727 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-c4 Ra8-b8 Qd1-f3 Qd8-f6 Qf3xf6
Ng8xf6 Nb1-c3
9 -33 529 1552105 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-c4 Ra8-b8 Qd1-f3 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3
O-O O-O
9 -33 893 2883366 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-c4 Ra8-b8 Qd1-f3 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3
O-O O-O
10 -24 1386 4624922 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-c4 Ra8-b8 Nb1-c3 Rb8-b4 Bc4-d3
Ng8-e7 O-O O-O
10 -24 1782 6040239 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-c4 Ra8-b8 Nb1-c3 Rb8-b4 Bc4-d3
Ng8-e7 O-O O-O
11 -29 2684 9497000 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-d3 Ng8-e7 O-O O-O c3 d6 Nb1-d2
Ra8-b8 Nd2-f3
11 -29 4943 17682885 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-d3 Ng8-e7 O-O O-O c3 d6 Nb1-d2
Ra8-b8 Nd2-f3
12 -29 10082 37012233 Bf8-g7 Bc1-e3 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3 Nf6-g4 Qd1xg4 Nc6xd4 Bb5-d3
d6 Qg4-d1 O-O O-O
12 -29 16354 60157463 Bf8-g7 Bc1-e3 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3 Nf6-g4 Qd1xg4 Nc6xd4 Bb5-d3
d6 Qg4-d1 O-O O-O
13 -26 24539 91380489 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-d3 Ng8-e7 O-O O-O c3 Ra8-b8
Nb1-d2 d6 Nd2-b3
13 -26 34840 128708549 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-d3 Ng8-e7 O-O O-O c3 Ra8-b8
Nb1-d2 d6 Nd2-b3
14 -25 47019 174731042 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-d3 Ng8-e7 O-O O-O c3 Ra8-b8
Nb1-d2 d6 Nd2-b3 f5 Bd3-c4 Kg8-h8 Rf1-e1
14 -25 65096 240594677 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-d3 Ng8-e7 O-O O-O c3 Ra8-b8
Nb1-d2 d6 Nd2-b3 f5 Bd3-c4 Kg8-h8 Rf1-e1
15 -26 89483 332679855 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-d3 Ng8-e7 O-O O-O c3 Ra8-b8
Nb1-d2 d6 Nd2-b3 f5 Rf1-e1 f5xe4 Re1xe4
15 -26 327017 1214797333 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-d3 Ng8-e7 O-O O-O c3 Ra8-b8
Nb1-d2 d6 Nd2-b3 f5 Rf1-e1 f5xe4 Re1xe4
16 -25 425441 1585711315 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-d3 Ng8-e7 O-O O-O c3 Ra8-b8
Nb1-d2 d6 Nd2-b3 f5 Bd3-c4 Kg8-h8 Rf1-e1 f5xe4 Re1xe4
16 -25 577545 2128538552 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-d3 Ng8-e7 O-O O-O c3 Ra8-b8
Nb1-d2 d6 Nd2-b3 f5 Bd3-c4 Kg8-h8 Rf1-e1 f5xe4 Re1xe4
17 -31 759599 -1486031262 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bb5-d3 Ng8-f6 O-O O-O Nb1-c3 d6
Ra1-b1
La jugada correcta era: d8-e7
Voy por el problema 1. Resueltos: 1
Then (using Pepito 1.47) I ran for 999 seconds on the position after the queen
move and the castle:
[D]r1b1kbnr/ppppqp1p/2n3p1/1B6/3NP3/8/PPP2PPP/RNBQ1RK1 b kq -
Pepito v1.47, Copyright (C) 2000-01 Carlos del Cacho
Pepito comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free
software, you can redistribute it and/or modify it under
the terms of the GNU General Public License as published
by the FSF; see file COPYING for details.
HASH_SIZE: 4194304 entries / 64.00 MB
PAWN_HASH_SIZE: 131072 entries / 1.50 MB
ECACHE_SIZE: 32768 entries / 0.50 MB
EGTB_PATH: e:\programme\winboard\nalimov
RMARGIN: -1000
USE_BOOK: yes
PRI_BOOK: Not found
SEC_BOOK: Not found
PRI_BOOK_FILE:
SEC_BOOK_FILE:
BOOK_RANDOM: yes
HASH_STORE_DEPTH: 1
Type "help" for a list of available commands.
Pepito> post
Pepito> epd
Introduzca fichero a cargar:
> aftercas.epd
Tiempo por problema (segs) ? 999
CONTROL_IN 20000
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
8 | *R | | *B | | *K | *B | *N | *R |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
7 | *P | *P | *P | *P | *Q | *P | | *P |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
6 | | | *N | | | | *P | |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
5 | | B | | | | | | |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
4 | | | | N | P | | | |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
3 | | | | | | | | |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
2 | P | P | P | | | P | P | P |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
1 | R | N | B | Q | | R | K | |
+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+
a b c d e f g h
5 -60 27 17446 Qe7-e5 Nd4xc6 d7xc6 Bb5-d3 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3
5 -40 31 32241 Ng8-f6 Bc1-g5 Qe7-e5 Bg5xf6 Qe5xf6 c3
5 -40 34 39127 Ng8-f6 Bc1-g5 Qe7-e5 Bg5xf6 Qe5xf6 c3
6 -42 45 75544 Qe7-e5 Bb5xc6 d7xc6 Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 f4 Qe5-c5
6 -42 55 106817 Qe7-e5 Bb5xc6 d7xc6 Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 f4 Qe5-c5
7 -61 67 143101 Qe7-e5 Bb5xc6 d7xc6 Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 f4 Qe5-c5 Bc1-e3
7 -47 154 427993 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 d7xc6 Bb5-d3 Bc8-e6 c4 O-O-O Nb1-c3
Bg7xc3 b2xc3
7 -47 155 428395 Bf8-g7 Nd4xc6 d7xc6 Bb5-d3 Bc8-e6 c4 O-O-O Nb1-c3
Bg7xc3 b2xc3
8 -51 284 847674 Bf8-g7 Nd4-b3 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3 O-O Bc1-g5 d6 Qd1-f3
8 -48 365 1081371 Qe7-e5 Bb5xc6 d7xc6 Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 Nd4-f3 Qe5-d6 Bc1-g5
Qd6-e6
8 -48 399 1183429 Qe7-e5 Bb5xc6 d7xc6 Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 Nd4-f3 Qe5-d6 Bc1-g5
Qd6-e6
9 -53 481 1457929 Qe7-e5 Bb5xc6 d7xc6 Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 Nd4-f3 Qe5-d6 Bc1-d2
Bc8-e6 Kg1-h1
9 -40 828 2656544 Bf8-g7 Nd4-b3 Qe7-d8 Qd1-f3 d6 Nb1-c3 Ng8-e7 Bc1-e3 O-O
9 -40 909 2930905 Bf8-g7 Nd4-b3 Qe7-d8 Qd1-f3 d6 Nb1-c3 Ng8-e7 Bc1-e3 O-O
10 -47 1499 4920369 Bf8-g7 Nd4-b3 h5 Rf1-e1 a6 Bb5-d3 d6 Nb1-d2 Nc6-e5
Bd3-e2
10 -47 2417 8244393 Bf8-g7 Nd4-b3 h5 Rf1-e1 a6 Bb5-d3 d6 Nb1-d2 Nc6-e5
Bd3-e2
11 -36 6668 23079004 Bf8-g7 Nd4-f3 a6 Bb5-d3 d6 Bc1-g5 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3 O-O
Nc3-d5 Qe7-d8
11 -36 7131 24738923 Bf8-g7 Nd4-f3 a6 Bb5-d3 d6 Bc1-g5 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3 O-O
Nc3-d5 Qe7-d8
12 -34 12295 42997885 Bf8-g7 Nd4-f3 a6 Bb5-d3 d6 c4 Bc8-g4 h3 Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3
Nc6-d4 Qf3-d1 Ng8-f6
12 -34 13375 46898102 Bf8-g7 Nd4-f3 a6 Bb5-d3 d6 c4 Bc8-g4 h3 Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3
Nc6-d4 Qf3-d1 Ng8-f6
13 -40 22614 78939737 Bf8-g7 Nd4-f3 a6 Bb5-d3 Qe7-d8 e5 Ng8-e7 Rf1-e1 O-O
Nb1-c3 d6 e5xd6 Qd8xd6
13 -40 40381 140942294 Bf8-g7 Nd4-f3 a6 Bb5-d3 Qe7-d8 e5 Ng8-e7 Rf1-e1 O-O
Nb1-c3 d6 e5xd6 Qd8xd6
14 -37 69542 241699102 Bf8-g7 Nd4-f3 Qe7-d8 Nb1-c3 Ng8-e7 Nc3-d5 O-O Bc1-g5
h6 Bg5-h4 g5 Bh4-g3 d6 c3
14 -37 78053 270741987 Bf8-g7 Nd4-f3 Qe7-d8 Nb1-c3 Ng8-e7 Nc3-d5 O-O Bc1-g5
h6 Bg5-h4 g5 Bh4-g3 d6 c3
Voy por el problema 1. Resueltos: 0
It appears (at this juncture) that the difference is a few hundredths of a pawn.
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