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Subject: Re: Djenghis in cct4

Author: Bas Hamstra

Date: 16:34:08 01/16/02

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On January 16, 2002 at 14:21:14, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 16, 2002 at 05:55:11, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>
>>On January 16, 2002 at 05:00:48, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On January 14, 2002 at 22:59:00, jefkaan wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 14, 2002 at 19:17:02, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>i see bookbuilder in cct4. that is an interface made by
>>>>>Bas Hamstra sold to J.E.F. Kaan
>>>>
>>>>bullshit, bookbuilder is my handle on ICC,
>>>>based on a program which i indeed invented
>>>>to analyze chess openings.
>>>
>>>I found this in one of your README files:
>>>
>>>   programming (up till version 3.2 by Bas Hamstra),
>>>   ideas, testing,evaluation, & further development by K.E.C,
>>>   The Netherlands, further programming (3.8 etc.Michel Langeveld).
>>>
>>>Maybe you can elaborate a bit about the origin of Bookbuilder?
>>>
>>>About Djenghis, when did you start programming Djenghis? Maybe you can tell us a
>>>bit about your program? Type of search, q-search, hash tables etc. In other
>>>words write some convincing stuff Djenghis is yours and yours alone and not
>>>another clone, post some results of test positions or whatever, because I think
>>>in the current situation it is advisable to purify your name.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>
>>Ridiculous... Now he is *advided* by a moderator to defend himself in public
>>against an personal attack without evidence. I clearly smell suspicion from you
>>here and that is *bad*.
>>
>>Tell me why you allow this? The guy has a 1800 program. Now if he gets a top 5
>>result in ICCCT4, T H E N ask questions. Not now.
>
>_ABSOLUTELY_ _NOT_.
>
>That is _the_ wrong way to handle this.  IE "wait and see."  If the entry is
>phony then the _entire_ tournament is affected and the results are clearly
>tainted.

So what? It's just another clone participating. One out of 50. It's nothing
compared to a beginning programmer being discredited and asked to do an exam in
public, based on "he cannot program" and an account he used with YACE.

>Participant problems must be resolved _prior_ to the start.  not _after_
>it is over.  By then it is too late...
>Asking someone to explain some internal details about their program is not
>"out of bounds".  Again, at ICCA events this is required on the entry form
>_anyway_.

No problem. But being asked to do an exam in public based on a false accusation
is still scandalous.

Bas.






>The more information that is available, the better things are...









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