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Subject: Re: Mate in 17 === J.Halumbirek,1948 (really: followed by #15)

Author: Heiner Marxen

Date: 16:46:25 01/16/02

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On January 16, 2002 at 18:10:43, Heiner Marxen wrote:

>On January 16, 2002 at 10:53:01, José Antônio Fabiano Mendes wrote:
>
>>On January 16, 2002 at 10:49:44, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>
>>>On January 16, 2002 at 10:45:50, José Antônio Fabiano Mendes wrote:
>>>
>>>> I saw this position in the CSS Forum [ http://www.computerschach.de/forum/ ],
>>>> the stipulation is "White to move and mate in 17",I have no way of knowing
>>>> if that is true or not,sorry. JAFM
>>>
>>>after some analysis with a friend it seems that white move and black mates !
>> It could very well be that,I had not thought of this possibility,most
>> likely you are right.Congrats! JAFM
>
>At least Chest confirms that white cannot mate in 17 moves, here.
>(Athlon XP 1500+, 11.3 minutes)
>
>I've started the reverse job, but I do not yet have any idea how long
>it will take.
>
>Cheers,
>Heiner

Interestingly, Chest finds that white is lost here: after the next ply
there will follow a mate in at most 15 moves.  Maximal depth is reached
after 3 of the leagl white moves:

After 1.Qg6+
PV: Kf8 Qf6+ Ke8 Qe6+ Kd8 Qd6+ Kc8 Qf8+ Kc7 Qf7+ Kb6 Qf6+ Kb5 Qf5+ Bd5 Qd3+ Bc4
Qd7+ Bc6 Qf5+ Bc5 Qxc5+ Kxc5 Kc2 Ba4+ Kb2 Bb4 Kb1 Bec3#

After 1.Qe6+
PV: Kf8 Qf6+ Ke8 Qe6+ Kd8 Qd6+ Kc8 Qf8+ Kc7 Qf7+ Kb6 Qf6+ Kb5 Qf5+ Bd5 Qd3+ Bc4
Qd7+ Bc6 Qf5+ Bc5 Qxc5+ Kxc5 Kc2 Ba4+ Kb2 Bb4 Kb1 Bec3#
PV: Kg7 Qe7+ Kg6 Qe8+ Kg5 Qg8+ Kh4 Qh8+ Kg3 Qg7+ Kh3 Qh7+ Bh4 Qd7+ Kh2 Kc2 Be4+
Kb2 Rg3 Qb5 Bc1+ Kxc1 Bg5+ Kb2 Rf2+ Qe2 Rxe2+ Ka1 Bf6#
PV: Kh7 Qe7+ Kh6 Qe6+ Kh5 Qe8+ Kh4 Qh8+ Kg3 Qg7+ Kh3 Qh7+ Bh4 Qd7+ Kh2 Kc2 Be4+
Kb2 Rg3 Qb5 Bc1+ Kxc1 Bg5+ Kb2 Rf2+ Qe2 Rxe2+ Ka1 Bf6#

After 1.Qd8+
PV: Kg7 Qd7+ Kg6 Qe8+ Kg5 Qg8+ Kh4 Qh8+ Kg3 Qg7+ Kh3 Qh7+ Bh4 Qd7+ Kh2 Kc2 Be4+
Kb2 Rg3 Qb5 Bc1+ Kxc1 Bg5+ Kb2 Rf2+ Qe2 Rxe2+ Ka1 Bf6#
PV: Kf7 Qd7+ Kf6 Qd6+ Kf5 Qd7+ Ke5 Qe7+ Kd5 Qf7+ Kc5 Qe7+ Kb5 Qe8+ Bc6 Qe5+ Bhd5
Qe2+ Ka5 Qf3 Bxf3+ Kc2 Bfe4+ Kb3 Bcd5+ Kb2 Bd4+ Ka3 Bb4#
PV: Kh7 Qd7+ Kh6 Qe6+ Kh5 Qe8+ Kh4 Qh8+ Kg3 Qg7+ Kh3 Qh7+ Bh4 Qd7+ Kh2 Kc2 Be4+
Kb2 Rg3 Qb5 Bc1+ Kxc1 Bg5+ Kb2 Rf2+ Qe2 Rxe2+ Ka1 Bf6#

I'm too lazy to cut&paste all the other variants, unless someone explicitly
demands them.

Done on an Athlon 1500+, 128MB hash, 10MB EGTB-cache (some 5-piece)
in 38.2 minutes.  Not bad  :-)

Cheers,
Heiner



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