Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 17:25:09 06/17/98
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On June 17, 1998 at 13:40:10, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: >On June 17, 1998 at 08:56:51, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: > >> ... >>I think, and always said, that Fritz's autoplayer should be made public, even if >>only to put an end to all this repetitive discussion, and not because it does >>not adhere to auto232 conventions. As far as I can tell, an autoplayer has to do >>its job: let you plug the serial cable and autoplay machine-machine. Anything >>else is in my opinion arguable and artificial. >> >>On the other hand, Rebel's learner is faulty. No one says a game must be saved >>before learning takes place. > >If your learning analysis or its backup on disk is a little bit time consuming, >then it's certainly not a wise decision to do it in the middle of the game. The >end of the game, being signaled by the autoplayer's "save" command seems to be a >natural choice. (I have decided to save the learning analysis of my program when >the "new game" or the "exit" command is received.) It's possible to prevent this learning too, because a program R would use this too, then the next version of a program F will simply give again the store game command, but will exit using control-c, or simply reboot, and wil start a new game by moving to the begin of a game and then use a reset of the clock. >After all, I wouldn't say that a learner is "faulty" because it's triggered by >the "save" command. The problem is rather that the auto232 protocol had never >been specified as a standard. With C. Donninger's autoplayer you could rely on >receiving the "save" command no matter what's the opponent. That's different >now. > >BTW, an autoplayer not saving the games, doesn't make much sense to me. The >advantage of an autoplayer is that you do not have to watch the games live. How >do you want to find out what happened after a 20 game match, when the games have >not been saved ? Yes you lose the control to what games get stored and what not, and what happened to the game right before the autoplayer gave disturbance. Yes that says enough about the followed approach. they never should have used those awfull machines freely shipped by chessbase without checking things first. Should have demanded that programs can play under equal conditions. When you do a brain surgery to a program every game, then this is not fair. We all know about what happens in topsport when you have a weak spot somewhere. BTW did they really ship 200MMX intel and didn't they ship 200MMX k6 to Sweden, is that checked, and was that f5 version already with their book installed at the HD? Can i buy a CDrom from Sweden with that F5 version? >>... Vincent
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