Author: blass uri
Date: 22:10:08 06/17/98
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On June 17, 1998 at 14:49:15, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >On June 17, 1998 at 12:01:56, blass uri wrote: > >> >>On June 15, 1998 at 18:56:12, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >> >>>Those are in PGN the 13 opening lines posted by you: >>> >>>[Event "?"] >>>[Site "?"] >>>[Date "????.??.??"] >>>[Round "?"] >>>[White "R9"] >>>[Black "Diep"] >>>[Result "*"] >>>[ECO "C63"] >>>[PlyCount "9"] >>> >>>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 f5 4. d3 d6 5. exf5 * >>> >>black can have good result in this line if white is fritz5 >>for example >>5...Bxf5 6.d4 0.50/12 Nge7 7.Bg5 0.63/11 a6 8.Bxc6+ 0.56/12 bxc6 >>9.dxe5 0.75/12 Rb8 10.Na3 0.94/11 h6 11.Bxe7 0.84/11 Qxe7 >>12.0-0 1.06/11 d5 13.Rb1 1.00/12 Bg4 14.c3 1.06/11 Rb6 > >We see that score goes clearly up for white after few moves. It's a >pawn up for white now. > >The rest of the game is even with a killerbook at own risk of course, >i'm currently seeing many time losses of diep, and positions like: > >Crafty versus Diep (Judgeturpin or DoctorWho i forgot what account) > > - = - = - = - = ... 1 ... > = - = - = - = - ... 2 ... > - = - = o = o = ... 3 ... > = - = - = o = - ... 4 ... > R o k = - O - O ... 5 ... > = - r - = - O K ... 6 ... > O = - = - = - = ... 7 ... > = - = - = - = - ... 8 ... >wow what does WWW mess this up! > >black to move > >position white Kh3,Ra4,a2,f4,g3,h4 > black Kc4,Rc3,b4,e6,f5,g6 > black to move wins easily > >Believe it or not, diep managed to lost this as it didn't play Ra3, >it played Re3. >This is so simple, but i haven't worked at endgame yet. > >Diep needs about a minute to see that Ra3 wins! > >So even a simple won position doesn't garantuee anything at blitz especially, >but at 2 minutes a move, or in Sweden at slower hardware >3 minutes a move, and commercial programs which have worked >at their weak points, it gets harder to mess up. > >Then +1.xx out of book and having positions which your prog plays >well, which you know in advance, is a huge advantage. fritz5 does not play well the position. the game proves it cannot win itself in the position and I gave it enough time. 4 minurtes per move on my pentium200 MMx is similiar to 3 minutes per move when you use the permanent brain. > > >>15.Re1 1.06/12 Qf7 16.e6 1.00/12 Qf4 17.Nc2 0.94/12 Be7 >>18.Qd4 1.03/12 Qxd4 19.Nfxd4 1.06/13 c5 20.h3 0.66/13 Bh5 >>21.Nf5 0.50/12 Bg6 22.g4 0.50/12 Bxf5 23.gxf5 0.59/12 Rf8 >>24.Ne3 0.34/12 d4 25.Nc4 0.25/12 Rb8 26.cxd4 0.22/12 cxd4 >>27.Re4 0.22/12 Rb5 28.Rxd4 0.03/12 Rbxf5 29.Rf1 0.06/12 R8f6 >>30.Re4 0.03/12 Bc5 31.Ne3 0.00/11 Rg5+ 32.Kh2 -0.13/13 Rgg6 >>33.f3 -0.16/12 Bd6+ 34.Kh1 -0.25/13 Rxe6 35.Nc4 -0.31/11 Rxe4 >>36.fxe4 -0.56/12 Rg3 37.e5 -0.66/13 Rxh3+ 38.Kg2 -0.84/14 Rh4 >>39.b3 -0.97/13 Be7 40.Rd1 -0.94/12 h5 >>this game was played by fritz5 against itself 160 minutes per 40 moves >>on my pentium 200MMX. > >>the opening can be quilty only if fritz5 had some moves in its power book >>after move 5 that are different from this game. >> >>Uri
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