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Subject: Re: I have made a complete makeover on my site, please have a look.

Author: Gareth McCaughan

Date: 05:46:07 01/19/02

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On January 19, 2002 at 02:54:46, Jonas Cohonas wrote:

> http://www.betachess.dk
>
> Please tell me what you think, and let me know (in detail
> if you have the time) what was good and what was not.
> Is the speed ok, does it view properly in your browser
> etc. Is there any features you would like to see,
> all you can think of.

Doesn't work *at all* in my browser. I don't think it's
because of the browser itself; I have JavaScript turned off,
and even when I turn it on I have window.open() disabled.

Unfortunately, everything in the site seems to depend
critically on this. Couldn't you provide a "plain"
version, just using ordinary HTML to do the stuff
HTML was designed to do (e.g., lists of hyperlinks)?

Actually, it seems that there's a browser incompatibility
too; the first page beyond the opening click-through
doesn't display its menu at all for me. I'm using
Konqueror on a FreeBSD box.

For those who can't or won't do Java, you could make the
PGN files (Gameofthemonth.pgn and live.pgn) available
for download by more conventional means.

The news page shouldn't require Java. Again, there should
be a plain HTML version.

If what you want is a site that looks nice for users
of recent IE versions who have support for JavaScript
and Java turned on, and who don't mind everything
taking twice as long as is necessary, you're doing
very well. If what you want is a site of useful resources
for use even by people with nonstandard OSes or browsers
or who won't turn on Java support in their browsers for
some reason, it could use some improvement :-).

A more concrete suggestion:

On the front page, put a link (in ordinary HTML)
called something like "plain HTML" or "no frills".
This links to a page which has a list of links:
news, databases, whatever else can be got at without
using Java and JavaScript. It also has a paragraph
telling readers what they're missing by not using
the fancy version of the site, and a link to the
main page of the fancy version.

The news page in this version, again, is just a
list of links to ordinary HTML pages. The database
page is just a list of links to the raw PGN files.

Is it worth doing thia? Depends. I suspect it's only
freaks like me who don't run Internet Explorer with
everything turned on who will be inconvenienced by the
site as it stands. But I *suspect* (no evidence!) that
the proportion of such freaks is higher among computer
chess enthusiasts than in the population at large.

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