Author: Bernhard Bauer
Date: 04:29:15 06/18/98
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On June 17, 1998 at 19:53:24, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >On June 17, 1998 at 19:03:49, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: > >>On June 17, 1998 at 18:28:34, Helmut Winkler wrote: >> >>>8/8/6Q1/8/8/7k/3p1pp1/3Kbrrb w - - >> >>Crafty 14.8p6 does not find the mate either, the latest Winboard versions of >>Comet and Patzer do so instantly... Don't know about the latest Crafties. It >>seems that the problem is the old one, present in all the Fritzes so far -- the >>null-move and the zugzwang... >> >>Regards, >> >>Djordje > >Of course not. It's a nullmove problem. I get kind of sick of this kind of >problems. Everyone knows that fritz5 does use nullmove without >zugzwang detection. so does crafty, so what is your problem >Helmut? > You think it's a nullmove problem? Isn't it a *chess* problem? Should'nt a *chess* program be able to solve a legal position? You get kind of sick of this kind of problems? Why? do you use nullmove in your own program? You ask what his problem is? Has'nt he descibed it very clear? The problem is that several chess programs are not able to solve this easy position. They do not suck - they have a nullmove feature. >You don't need to test those problems even on it, know >before you test the problem that it doesn't find it. They only play "No-Null-Move-Chess". Anyway you are wrong. Look at Darkthought. Implementation of knowledge takes a long time. Bernhard > >Vincent.
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