Author: Frank Quisinsky
Date: 06:02:11 01/20/02
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On January 20, 2002 at 08:04:48, Martin Schubert wrote: >On January 20, 2002 at 07:04:01, Frank Quisinsky wrote: > >>On January 20, 2002 at 06:42:09, CLiebert wrote: >> >>>Nearly all of the most interessting profi-engines are only running under fritz >>>and not under other GUIs. And I do want a rating list without them, this would >>>be like a bundesliga-tableau without bayern, leverkusen and dortmund, but with >>>Bochum, Mainz and Fürth. >> >>Nonsens ! >> >>We have: >>Tiger, Chess Partner, Chess Assistant, CBase >>Rebel, DOS in the future WB an within all other commercial GUIs >>Gandalf, Chess Partner, WB and within all other commercial GUIs >>Nimzo, CBase, WB and within all other commercial GUIs >>TheKing, CBase, WB and within all other commercial GUIs >>Fritz, CBase, UCI and within CA, Shredder others in the future >>Junior, CBase Baby >>Hiarcs, CBase Baby >>Shredder, CBase, UCI and within CA, Shredder others in the future >> >>And with WinBoard is CBase on the last place from all commercial GUIs. >> >>Why the programs Junior, Hiarcs are running only under Fritz? >>An own concept ! >> >>>Hiarcs732, latest Nimzo8, Fritz5/6/7, Junior 4.6/5/6/7, Shredder6. Tiger doesn´t >>>support WB or UCI but runs under fritz too. Goliath XP and Light doesn´t support >>>Tablesbases under WB but running under fritz well, too. SOS will, Yace too. Also >>>Gromit. So there are very good reasons to opt for fritz, because the stronger >>>engines are more important than the weaker ones behind crafty! >> >>You speak from 2-3 engines. >>We have 140 other engines !!! >> >>Your opinion is maybe the reason for Chess-Base pro reviews in the past? >> >>Hey Christian, you are redakteur from a computer chess magazine, please open >>your eyes ! >> >>The GUI with the most engine support is Chess-Assistant !! >>Full WB, UCI, MCS, own concept (+ Dragon). >> >>Compare CB: >>Bad WB, UCI now 2-3 days, CB and not more ! >>This is bad, OK a little bit better with UCI now. >> >>Best >>Frank > >Hi, Frank! > >Even if I prefer CA to ChessBase, I think a BFF rating list is more interesting >then a "best for ca"-rating list. Because all top programs run under >ChessBase-GUI. Here I do agree with Christian. >But I think it's quite interesting that you here now the word UCI from Christian >for the first time now that Fritz is going to support UCI. >I never read anything about CA in CSS except the review (anything about CA in >the Tips&Tricks?), so information about CA is poor IMO in CSS. But I don't think >the BFF is a good example for this. > >Best, Martin Hi Martin, I understand your points, is OK and normaly in my eyes. Only my opition: I will not see a rating list with x Fritze and Juniors ... I will see a good rating list with commercial (in 1 or 2 versions) and amateur programs. Unter Chess-Base the WB engines works bad and the list is within not very interesting. The time control is not interesting and and and ... Thousends of hours testing time for the cat. Interesting for CSS lovers and commercial chess lovers is a new rating list with UCI and CB Engines without WB Engines (I mean for the moment). Maybe Christian have interest to start a new list. BTW: Fritz have very good tournament possibilitys. Maybe the programmes from Chess-Assistant can added more options. I must say I like Chess-Assistant. I install yesterday the Chess-Partner GUI and will also looking here. But the time the time. The Arena Beta test event is for me at the moment on the list on number 1 !! It's important that user find a good freeware GUI with supported UCI and WB. Interesting the tournament tools for WinBoard. It is easy and more interesting to start tourneys with this tools. I look in the evening in 2 of this tools, fantastic. Best Frank
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