Author: Uri Blass
Date: 01:55:02 01/21/02
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On January 21, 2002 at 04:07:11, Tony Werten wrote: >On January 21, 2002 at 03:51:42, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On January 21, 2002 at 02:32:18, Tony Werten wrote: >> >>>On January 20, 2002 at 14:40:08, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On January 20, 2002 at 12:25:29, Russell Reagan wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 20, 2002 at 09:56:43, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On January 20, 2002 at 09:28:51, Bas Hamstra wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>A dutch saying. I "converted" a colleague that has become a friend at work, I'm >>>>>>>not entirely sure that this is a noble thing. He is pretty smart and has a broad >>>>>>>interest. So we talked a few times about the insides of a chess program. He >>>>>>>became interested and I explained alphabeta. The next day he had alphabeta >>>>>>>completely figured out in a spreadsheet, and understood it. Two weeks later, he >>>>>>>has a working winboard engine... Boy HE goes fast. In May (if there is a Leiden >>>>>>>tournament again) he will show up with "Shark". His main target is to crush Tao >>>>>>>:-) At first I smiled, and said that is was quite possible in a couple of years. >>>>>>>But lately I am beginning to get the feeling that it might be sooner :-) Have >>>>>>>you ever seen someone pick it up SO quickly...? >>>>>> >>>>>>IIRC Bruce started on Ferret in 1994 and had (from his own comments) an engine >>>>>>that could have been commerical by the end of 1995. I think that's certainly >>>>>>a remarkable archievement, especially considering that seven years ago there >>>>>>was much less information and examples available. >>>>> >>>>>Bruce works for Microsoft. He doesn't count. >>>> >>>> >>>>I do not understand what is the importance of the question where someone works >>>>for the discussion. >>> >>>Certain workenvironments give acces to a lot of experienced programmers. >>>Although it's not a sure it helps, it doesn't hurt either. >>> >>>Tony >> >>I believe that there are 2 important things to be good in chess programming. >> >>1)having talent for programming that means the ability to do fast a well defined >>algorithm with no stupid bugs that you need to work hours to discover. >> >>2)having talent for math that can help you to be better in finding >>a better algorithm and to be better in guessing if an idea is wrong or right >>based on previous experience. >> >>The number of people who have special talent for both 1 and 2 is small but I >>believe that someone with special talent for 1 and 2 can do a top program in >>every game in a few weeks. > >I disagree. You forgot 3) Having new ideas. Not everything is published, so you >need a feel of what is happening in your program and then find ways to do that >best. 1 and 2 will only give you a decent program. > >Tony I think that having new ideas is included in 2 people who have a special talent for math need to have new ideas in order to discover new things. Uri
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