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Subject: Re: Junior 7 endgame blunder !

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:09:08 01/22/02

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On January 22, 2002 at 10:40:33, James T. Walker wrote:

>[D]B7/5pk1/6p1/7p/7P/8/4K3/8 b - - 0 1
>
>In this position Junior 7 played 60.....f5 ?? and lost this ending.  This was
>done with access to all 3/4/5 man tablebases.  I'm an idiot and I can see about
>3 ways to draw this ending without tablebases.

Junior7 believes that this position is a draw also with f5 because white has the
wrong bishop.

I did not analyze it but I guess that white can force a zunzwang and force black
to play g5 at some point in order to win by hxg5.

The problem is not that Junior cannot see the 3 ways to draw but that it
believes that there is also a 4th way to draw.

>By the way, what's up with Chessbase?  If you ask Junior 7 to copy the position,
>this is what you get: "wKe2,Ba8,Ph4/bKg7,Pf7,g6,h5"   Have they never heard of
>FEN over there?  Who in the hell uses this kind of nonsense to describe a
>position???????

They heard about FEN
You can use
File->new->position setup->copy FEN

edit->copy position does not work.

Maybe chessbase asssume that most customers never heard about FEN and this is
the reason that they do the option of edit->copy position in the way that you
describe.

Every chess player who know the english words bishop,pawn king can understand
wKe2,Ba8,Ph4/bKg7,Pf7,g6,h5
Not every chess player understand FEN and I guess that most of the chess players
do not understand the meaning of FEN.

Uri



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