Author: Mark Loftus
Date: 07:29:51 06/19/98
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On June 18, 1998 at 20:53:57, Bela Andrew Evans wrote: >I don't think you'd want to take people's saved games to rate >computers -- you could get all kind of skewed data that way. After >all, people only have to save the games they want to save -- which >might be the ones they win, or which makes a certain program look >good. I can beat my computer programs a lot -- if I take back a >couple of tactical blunders I make each game :). I would hate to >have that kind of data end up in some rating list. > Obviously these games must be played in the serious mode, i.e. no takebacks. You are correct there could be problems like people playing programs they can beat... I would like to think you can do something like this with the "honor system", but maybe not. >No, the only way to do it would be to have people play the computer >programs under somewhat tournament-like conditions. In addition, I >think it would only be fair if people played the computer programs >they DID NOT own or were familiar with -- you want to know the >programs general strength, not how it gets beat up by somebody who >has played hundreds of games against it in his pet openings and >knows every strategic error the program makes in those openings. This would involve a third party setting up a series between a rated player and a program. I think this can be done, I don't know any master's personally - the highest rated players I know in the chess club I play at (Woodbury, NJ) are about 1800-1900 which probably won't help for the highest rated programs. In CCC there is access to plenty of masters, just a matter of getting something organized. The Rebel vs. Anand series is a step in that direction. There is an an added plus to programmers in these games vs. humans where different types of mistakes may show up as opposed to comp. vs. comp. games, so they can make their programs even better. Mark Loftus > >Bela Evans
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