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Subject: Re: Suggestion For CCTF/CCL

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 08:11:05 06/19/98

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On June 18, 1998 at 20:54:36, Bela Andrew Evans wrote:

>I don't think you'd want to take people's saved games to rate
>computers -- you could get all kind of skewed data that way.  After
>all, people only have to save the games they want to save -- which
>might be the ones they win, or which makes a certain program look
>good.  I can beat my computer programs a lot -- if I take back a
>couple of tactical blunders I make each game :).  I would hate to
>have that kind of data end up in some rating list.


Hi Bela:
Yeah, you are right. People cheats. Personally I save the games that were
interesting to me, incuding those I have lost, that are many, that are most, but
but of course I am somewhat masochistic.  But even in tournament conditions we
cannot avoid that. We cannot do a thorought surveillance over each guy that is
playing in his home. At last we anyway must put trust in the people.
So another more solid posibility we could implement is this: to invite home
people with high ratings and let them play under our surveillance. I have done
that with a couple of masters, including one old guy that years ago defeated
Fisher, see the article in WCCR. I am sure each of us is acquanted with at least
an strong, rated player. Then we could get a respectable database on the ground
of games againts that people. We would become referees on behalf of the process.
What do you think?
Fernando


>No, the only way to do it would be to have people play the computer
>programs under somewhat tournament-like conditions.  In addition, I
>think it would only be fair if people played the computer programs
>they DID NOT own or were familiar with -- you want to know the
>programs general strength, not how it gets beat up by somebody who
>has played hundreds of games against it in his pet openings and
>knows every strategic error the program makes in those openings.

...but even



>Bela Evans



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