Author: James T. Walker
Date: 13:56:55 01/22/02
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On January 22, 2002 at 14:22:46, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On January 22, 2002 at 13:36:36, Peter McKenzie wrote: > >>On January 22, 2002 at 12:04:34, James T. Walker wrote: >> >>>On January 22, 2002 at 11:56:13, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On January 22, 2002 at 10:40:33, James T. Walker wrote: >>>> >>>>>[D]B7/5pk1/6p1/7p/7P/8/4K3/8 b - - 0 1 >>>>> >>>>>In this position Junior 7 played 60.....f5 ?? and lost this ending. This was >>>>>done with access to all 3/4/5 man tablebases. I'm an idiot and I can see about >>>>>3 ways to draw this ending without tablebases. >>>>>By the way, what's up with Chessbase? If you ask Junior 7 to copy the position, >>>>>this is what you get: "wKe2,Ba8,Ph4/bKg7,Pf7,g6,h5" Have they never heard of >>>>>FEN over there? Who in the hell uses this kind of nonsense to describe a >>>>>position??????? >>>> >>>> >>>>How could it possibly lose this as black? Even if it just gives >>>>up all the pawns, white has the wrong bishop if my eyes are not playing >>>>tricks on me. It would seem that playing g6 when black can't recapture >>>>if white takes would be the only way to lose, turning that worthless rook >>>>pawn into a knight pawn that can win. >>> >>>You asked for it! >>> >>>[D]B7/5pk1/6p1/7p/7P/8/4K3/8 b - - 0 60 >>> 60...f5 61.Ke3 f4+ 62.Kxf4 Kh6 63.Be4 Kg7 64.Kg5 Kh8 65.Kh6 Kg8 66.Bd5+ Kh8 >>>67.Bc4 g5 68.hxg5 h4 69.g6 h3 70.g7# 1-0 >> >>Seems like it is still a draw after 64. ...Kh7 >>My conclusionn is that f5 wasn't the blunder, 64. ...Kh8 was. >> >>Peter > > > >I agree here. This is what we were looking at on ICC this afternoon, and >until Kh8, things look reasonable. But after Kh8 I get an instant mate in >18 for white. However, f5 and f4 are pretty senseless as well as they just >chuck tempi and get the white king up to where it wants to be anyway... I agree Bob. I was looking at it from my "idiots" point of view. If I was playing this position I would immediately play to eliminate the last white pawn so I could not lose (on time). (It was game/25 minutes) Computers don't think like me so they play different. But this needs fixing.
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