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Subject: Amir could you review this and post your opinion here on DJ7

Author: K. Burcham

Date: 16:27:41 01/22/02


Amir when i run this line through Deep junior7, DJ7 cannot
see what is going on. even at the depths below.
none of my other programs do this. my other programs show
the initial position eval as .0
so does DJ7. but with the first move, DJ7 still shows .0 through
several moves. other programs show large eval change with first move
of f5. also can you explain the DJ7 eval at 67...g5---here DJ7 engine stops.
kburcham


Deep Junior7   2x1533mhz

60...f5 61.Ke3 f4+ 62.Kxf4 Kh6 63.Be4 Kg7 64.Kg5 Kh8 65.Kh6 Kg8 66.Bd5+ Kh8
67.Bc4 g5 68.hxg5 h4 69.g6 h3 70.g7# 1-0

 [D] B7/5pk1/6p1/7p/7P/8/4K3/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Junior 7:

60...f5 2.Bg2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 27   00:00:02  355kN, tb=1080
60...f5 2.Bg2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 30   00:00:05  846kN, tb=2223
60...f5 2.Bg2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 32   00:00:10  2790kN, tb=5353
60...f5 2.Bg2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 34   00:00:18  9359kN, tb=12662
60...f5 2.Bg2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 36   00:00:37  35684kN, tb=37165
60...f5 2.Bg2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 37   00:01:27  137189kN, tb=141207
60...f5 2.Bg2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 38   00:02:35  290592kN, tb=330323
60...f5 2.Bg2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 39   00:04:38  572944kN, tb=712616
60...f5 2.Bg2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 40   00:08:17  1082748kN, tb=1473523


 [D] B7/6k1/6p1/5p1p/7P/4K3/8/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Junior 7:

61...f4+ 3.Kxf4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 39   00:00:02  805kN, tb=2928
61...f4+ 3.Kxf4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 42   00:00:03  1418kN, tb=6002
61...f4+ 3.Kxf4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 45   00:00:05  2517kN, tb=11053
61...f4+ 3.Kxf4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 47   00:00:10  5602kN, tb=19845
61...f4+ 3.Kxf4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 49   00:00:20  15858kN, tb=35587
61...f4+ 3.Kxf4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 50   00:01:14  87352kN, tb=102424


 [D] B7/6k1/6p1/7p/5K1P/8/8/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Junior 7:

62...Kh6 4.Bh1
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 60   00:00:01  10kN
62...Kh6 4.Bh1
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 62   00:00:01  28kN, tb=146
62...Kh6 4.Bh1
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 62   00:00:01  28kN, tb=150


 [D] 8/8/6pk/7p/4BK1P/8/8/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Junior 7:

63...Kg7 5.Bh1
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 44   00:00:27  41980kN, tb=55427
63...Kg7 5.Bh1
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 45   00:01:58  185928kN, tb=306475


 [D] 8/6k1/6p1/6Kp/4B2P/8/8/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Junior 7:

64...Kh8 6.Bxg6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 60   00:00:01  47kN, tb=373
64...Kh8 6.Bxg6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 63   00:00:01  52kN, tb=405
64...Kh8 6.Bxg6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 63   00:00:01  53kN, tb=435

 [D] 7k/8/6p1/6Kp/4B2P/8/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Junior 7: after 64...Kh8

65.Bh1
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 57   00:00:00  6kN, tb=9
65.Bh1
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 60   00:00:00  7kN, tb=15
65.Bh1
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 62   00:00:00  9kN, tb=35
65.Bh1
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 62   00:00:00  9kN, tb=35


 [D] 7k/8/6pK/7p/4B2P/8/8/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Junior 7:  after 65.Kh6

65...Kg8 7.Bh1
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 61   00:00:21  26024kN, tb=108325


 [D] 7k/8/6pK/7p/2B4P/8/8/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Junior 7:  after 67.Bc4

67...g5 9.hxg5 h4
  +-  (2.87)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
67...g5 9.hxg5 h4
  +-  (2.87)   Depth: 3   00:00:00


 [D] 7k/8/7K/6pp/2B4P/8/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Junior 7: after 67...g5

9.hxg5 h4 10.g6 h3 11.g7#
  +-  (#3)   Depth: 6   00:00:00
9.hxg5 h4 10.g6 h3 11.g7#
  +-  (#3)   Depth: 6   00:00:00
9.hxg5 h4 10.g6 h3 11.g7#
  +-  (#3)   Depth: 6   00:00:00
9.hxg5 h4 10.g6 h3 11.g7#
  +-  (#3)   Depth: 6   00:00:00



Deep Shredder 6   draw moves
 [D] B7/5pk1/6p1/7p/7P/8/4K3/8 b - -

1... g5 2. hxg5  Kg6 3. Bd5  f6
4. gxf6  Kxf6

 32.01	 6:00 	-0.01 	1...g5 2.hxg5 f6 3.gxf6+ Kxf6 (131.088.581) 363.6
best move: g6-g5 time: 8:02.172 min  n/s: 438.772  CPU 151.9%  nodes:
211.563.746 TB: 1.762.205

 27.01	 0:54 	-0.01 	2...Kg6 3.Bd5 Kxg5 4.Bxf7 (24.908.008) 456.5
best move: Kg7-g6 time: 1:16.047 min  n/s: 506.252  CPU 164.3%  nodes:
38.499.020 TB: 386.846
 27.01	 0:02 	+0.01 	3.Bd5 Kxg5 4.Bxf7 (848.481) 315.6
best move: Ba8-d5 time: 0:36.047 min  n/s: 571.395  CPU 167.6%  nodes:
20.597.081 TB: 457.347
 27.01	 0:00 	-0.01 	3...Kxg5 4.Bxf7 (2.637) 164.8
best move: Kg6xg5 time: 0:32.125 min  n/s: 544.945  CPU 164.6%  nodes:
17.506.376 TB: 364.651
 24.01	 0:04 	+0.01 	4.gxf6 Kxf6 (3.228.628) 765.2
best move: g5xf6 time: 0:04.375 min  n/s: 767.845  CPU 196.0%  nodes: 3.359.322
TB: 143.044
 25.01	 0:00 	-0.01 	4...Kxf6 (512.315) 697.9
best move: Kg6xf6 time: 0:01.203 min  n/s: 688.952  CPU 196.0%  nodes: 828.810
TB: 71.483
  4.00	 0:00 	+0.01 	5.Bf3 Ke6 (206) 12.8
best move: Bd5-f3 time: 0:00.016 min  n/s: 17.250  CPU 93.7%  nodes: 276 TB: 253


Deep Shredder 6     losing game moves

 [D] B7/5pk1/6p1/7p/7P/8/4K3/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis  by Deep Shredder 6:
1...Kf6 2.Bd5 g5 3.hxg5+ Kxg5 4.Bxf7
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 26/38   00:00:22  9219kN, tb=169286
1...Kf6 2.Bd5 g5 3.hxg5+ Kxg5 4.Bxf7
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 27/39   00:00:37  14994kN, tb=259433
1...Kf6 2.Bd5 g5 3.hxg5+ Kxg5 4.Bxf7
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 28/40   00:00:46  20480kN, tb=323327
1...Kf6 2.Bd5 g5 3.hxg5+ Kxg5 4.Bxf7
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 29/41   00:01:05  32359kN, tb=428060


 [D] B7/6k1/6p1/5p1p/7P/8/4K3/8 w - f6 0 1

Analysis by Deep Shredder 6:

2.Kf3 Kh7 3.Kf4 Kg7 4.Kg5 Kf8 5.Bd5 Kg7 6.Bf3 Kh7 7.Bh1 Kg8 8.Bg2 Kf7 9.Bf3 f4
10.Kxf4 g5+ 11.hxg5 Ke7
  +-  (2.51)   Depth: 29/41   00:01:15  28974kN, tb=502700
2.Kf3 Kh7 3.Kf4 Kg7 4.Kg5 Kh7 5.Bg2 Kg7 6.Bd5 Kh7 7.Kf4 Kh6 8.Bf3 Kh7 9.Kg5 Kg7
10.Bd1 Kf7 11.Bc2
  +-  (2.52)   Depth: 30/42   00:01:53  47981kN, tb=770736
2.Kf3 Kh7 3.Kf4 Kg7 4.Kg5 Kh7 5.Bc6 Kg7 6.Be8 Kh7 7.Bxg6+ Kg7 8.Kxf5 Kg8 9.Ke5
Kg7 10.Bd3
  +-  (2.57)   Depth: 31/43   00:08:59  324061kN, tb=1506598
2.Kf3 Kh7 3.Kf4 Kg7 4.Kg5 Kh7 5.Bg2 Kg7 6.Bf1 Kh7 7.Kf6
  +-  (2.63)   Depth: 32/44   00:13:06  511387kN, tb=2168691


 [D] B7/6k1/6p1/7p/5K1P/8/8/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 6:

3...Kf7 4.Kg5 Kg7 5.Bb7 Kh7 6.Kf6 Kh8 7.Ba6 Kg8 8.Ke6
  +-  (3.96)   Depth: 32/44   00:00:22  15260kN, tb=239900
3...Kf7 4.Kg5 Kg7 5.Bb7 Kh7 6.Be4 Kg7 7.Bb7 Kh7 8.Be4 Kg7 9.Bb7 Kh7
  +-  (3.96)   Depth: 33/45   00:00:26  17647kN, tb=293869
3...Kf7 4.Kg5 Kg7 5.Bb7 Kh7 6.Be4 Kg7 7.Bb7 Kh7 8.Be4 Kg7 9.Bb7 Kh7
  +-  (3.96)   Depth: 34/46   00:00:34  22768kN, tb=354123
3...Kf7 4.Kg5 Kg7 5.Bb7 Kh7 6.Be4 Kg7 7.Bb7 Kh7 8.Be4 Kg7 9.Bb7 Kh7
  +-  (3.96)   Depth: 35/47   00:00:55  38920kN, tb=490102
3...Kf7 4.Kg5 Kg7 5.Bb7 Kh7 6.Ba6 Kg7 7.Bc8 Kh7 8.Kf6 Kh8 9.Ke5
  +-  (3.97)   Depth: 36/48   00:01:37  71255kN, tb=640256
3...Kf7 4.Kg5 Kg7 5.Bb7 Kh7 6.Ba6 Kg7 7.Bc8 Kh7 8.Bb7 Kg7 9.Bg2 Kh7 10.Be4 Kg7
11.Bb7 Kh7 12.Ba6 Kg7 13.Bc8 Kh7 14.Bb7 Kg7 15.Bg2 Kh7 16.Be4 Kg7 17.Bb7 Kh7
  +-  (3.97)   Depth: 37/49   00:05:24  305286kN, tb=3442735



 [D] 8/6k1/6p1/6Kp/4B2P/8/8/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 6:

5...Kh7 6.Bb7 Kg7 7.Bg2 Kh7 8.Bd5 Kg7 9.Bg2 Kh7 10.Bd5 Kg7 11.Bg2 Kh7
  +-  (3.97)   Depth: 36/48   00:00:02  436kN, tb=8259
5...Kh7 6.Bb7 Kg7 7.Bg2 Kh7 8.Bd5 Kg7 9.Bc6 Kh7 10.Bf3 Kg8 11.Kh6 Kf8 12.Bd5 g5
13.hxg5 Ke8
  +-  (3.97)   Depth: 37/49   00:00:05  729kN, tb=19741
5...Kh7 6.Bb7 Kg7 7.Bg2 Kh7 8.Bd5 Kg7 9.Bc6 Kh7 10.Bg2 Kg7 11.Bh3 Kh7 12.Bc8 Kg7
13.Bb7 Kf8 14.Kh6 g5 15.hxg5 h4 16.Bd5 h3
  +-  (4.22)   Depth: 38/50   00:00:12  1844kN, tb=112379
5...Kh7 6.Bb7 Kg7 7.Bg2 Kh7 8.Bd5 Kg7 9.Bc6 Kh7 10.Bg2 Kg7 11.Bh3 Kh7 12.Be6 Kg7
13.Bc4 Kf8
  +-  (4.72)   Depth: 38/50   00:00:31  23463kN, tb=525591


 [D] 7k/8/6p1/6Kp/4B2P/8/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 6:

6.Ba8 Kh7 7.Kf6
  +-  (4.28)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
6.Ba8 Kh7 7.Kf6
  +-  (4.28)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
6.Ba8 Kh7 7.Kf6
  +-  (4.28)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
6.Kh6 Kg8 7.Bd5+ Kf8 8.Kxg6 Ke8 9.Kg7 Kd8 10.Kf8 Kc7 11.Bf3 Kd6 12.Bxh5 Kc5
  +-  (#22)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
6.Kh6 Kg8 7.Bd5+ Kf8 8.Kxg6 Ke7 9.Kxh5
  +-  (#18)   Depth: 3/6   00:00:00
6.Kh6 Kg8 7.Bd5+ Kf8 8.Kxg6 Ke7 9.Kxh5
  +-  (#18)   Depth: 4/8   00:00:00
6.Kh6 Kg8 7.Bd5+ Kf8 8.Kxg6 Ke7 9.Kxh5
  +-  (#18)   Depth: 5/10   00:00:00
6.Kh6 Kg8 7.Bd5+ Kf8 8.Kxg6 Ke7 9.Kxh5
  +-  (#18)   Depth: 6/12   00:00:00
6.Kh6 Kg8 7.Bd5+ Kf8 8.Kxg6 Ke7 9.Kxh5
  +-  (#18)   Depth: 17/29   00:00:00  245kN, tb=2372
6.Kh6 Kg8 7.Bd5+ Kf8 8.Kxg6 Ke7 9.Kxh5
  +-  (#18)   Depth: 18/30   00:00:00  248kN, tb=2444
6.Kh6 Kg8 7.Bd5+ Kf8 8.Kxg6 Ke7 9.Kxh5
  +-  (#18)   Depth: 19/31   00:00:00  248kN, tb=2446
6.Kh6 Kg8 7.Bd5+ Kf8 8.Kxg6 Ke7 9.Kxh5
  +-  (#18)   Depth: 20/32   00:00:00  263kN, tb=2785
6.Kh6 Kg8 7.Bd5+ Kf8 8.Kxg6 Ke7 9.Kxh5
  +-  (#18)   Depth: 21/33   00:00:00  281kN, tb=3225
6.Kh6 Kg8 7.Bd5+ Kf8 8.Kxg6 Ke7 9.Kxh5
  +-  (#18)   Depth: 22/34   00:00:00  285kN, tb=3285

















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