Author: Andrew Williams
Date: 04:50:43 01/23/02
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On January 22, 2002 at 18:55:17, martin fierz wrote:
>On January 22, 2002 at 16:04:06, Andrew Williams wrote:
>
>>On January 22, 2002 at 15:56:21, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>[D]5rkr/2q1P1p1/p5Pp/8/3NQ2P/b3B3/2PKb3/7R b - - c0 "There may be a better move.
>>> For sure, after Bc4, we have lost."; id "Insomniac/Pepito";
>>>
>>>Alternatively, is there any move to pull the Pheonix from the ashes?
>>
>>Mine thinks it's a draw after 1...Bb4 Presumably I'm missing something?
>>
>>Andrew
>
>yes, your program (and the others who posted draws) are missing that black is
>lost in the line 1...Bb4 2. Kxe2 Qc4+ 3. Qd3 Qxd3+ 4. Kxd3 Bxe7
>
>>[mogens]:You get knight vs. rook in favor of black unless I'm missing
>> something.
>
>the point is that the black rook on h8 which you have for the knight is out of
>play, and if you do it right, it stays that way. here's a sample line i played
>against my fritz in chessbase:
>
>5. h5 {just to make sure that black can't play ...h5 and Rh6, and now black has
>many different moves, but i don't believe it makes a difference} 5...Bf6 (Fritz'
>choice) 6. Ne6! {freeze! everybody :-)} 6. ...Re8 7. Rb1 Be5 8. Rb6 a5 9. Bd4
>{+3 for white now, according to fritzy}
>
>other tries for black may be 6. ...Rb8 7. Bd4 Kxd4 +- or
>5. ...Bg5 6. Ne6 Bxe3 7. Nxf8 Kxf8 8. Rf1+ Ke7 9. Rf7+ Kd6 10. Kxe3 with what
>looks like a winning rook endgame.
>
>don't believe your programs too much... especially when you see pieces in the
>box!
>
>aloha
> martin
Thanks for this information. I left PM looking at the position after Bxe7
overnight, and by this morning, the score was starting to slip below -0.3.
I'll see where it's up to when I get home later.
Andrew
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