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Subject: Re: Some Philosophical questions on the limits of Computer chess

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 14:12:50 01/25/02

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On January 25, 2002 at 17:06:50, karen Dall Lynn wrote:

>On January 25, 2002 at 16:46:38, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>
>>I would like to know the opinion of the readers of this forum on the following
>>questions.
>>1.What would be the Elo rating of the perfect chessplayer?
>>2.Are there natural limits to the strenght that can be achieved in chess
>>for a computerchess player? (Not the present centuary but in any future;that
>>is what I mean by natural limits).
>>3.If the rating of perfect player is say x ;what would be the rating of
>>the stongest computer player ever(that is the best chessprogram that can be
>>ever contructed useing computer technology) .It would be x-?.Or would it be x?
>
>These are very interesting questions; they're not useful to any practical
>concern for now, but are food for thought yet they can be answered only for an
>ideal world. As one day a Turing Machine was taken as naked of any practical
>application (posterity proved it to be a blunder), I believe at least one of
>these questions might give room to some sc fi or fantasy.
>
>Let's wonder then.
>
>Indeed if we try to get empiricaly closer for instance to "the perfect chess
>player" we see that it sounds at least to me as "the perfectly spherical horse".
>A chess player is a cognitive agent and as such it cannot be perfect in this
>world of ours. It makes some sense only under the Reich of reason.
>
>But if you press the inquiry about what would be the rating of a perfect player,
>even fom a purely abstract point of view, I would say this question is imprecise
>if we analyse its own terms. The rating of a perfect player would not be a fixed
>number. Even ignoring the beauty and the art of the all-powerful strategy of a
>perfect chess player, from a quantitative point of view he would never lose or
>draw.

No

There is a simple strategy to get chances of more than 1/(10^10000) to draw
against the perfect player.

You need only to play a random move.

I believe the best player in the world can do better than it.

Uri



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