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Subject: Re: Fritz 7 glitches?

Author: karen Dall Lynn

Date: 17:27:32 01/25/02

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On January 25, 2002 at 17:56:44, Brian Katz wrote:

>On January 24, 2002 at 22:08:24, karen Dall Lynn wrote:
>
>>On January 24, 2002 at 21:57:55, Brian Katz wrote:
>>
>>>It appears that many many Fritz 7 problems are surfacing as time goes on.      A
>>>number of times when trying to access the crosstable during an engine
>>>tournament, the program would unload on me. A dialogue box with "Program
>>>Exception" and an numbered address would appear. Click to close the box and the
>>>program would unload.
>>> Now I at least wait until the opening is over before I even try to bring up the
>>>crosstable. For a while I could not follow the results of a tournament until it
>>>ended. Even then it would close out just after the attempt to access the
>>>crosstable from the recent tournament when right clicking onto a given game from
>>>the database. It would then allow me to bring up the crosstable when I reloaded
>>>the program. Other times it would work just fine. Lately, everything has been
>>>just fine, however.
>>>
>>>Notice you do not see RATINGS of the players or Programs in the Fritz 7 database
>>>window, when applying ratings to them. You will see the newly applied rating
>>>when you open up the rating window.
>>>In Fritz 6 and Deep Fritz, you would see the new ratings alongside the players
>>>name in the database player selection window.
>>>
>>>Perhaps they released the Fritz 7 program a little too soon. On the other hand,
>>>we at least have the latest Fritz engine which is stronger than it's
>>>predecessor. One can always use the Upgraded engine in the Fritz 6, Junior 6 or
>>>Deep Fritz interfaces, without having all the other problems.
>>>
>>>Brian
>>
>>I am inclined to agree with you, mainly from a psychological point of view.
>>
>>I am developing a kind of fear on clicking the most ordinary commands during
>>ongoing games, expecting something could go wrong in the wrong time. What
>>worries me about buggies is that we never know if they are just the peak of an
>>iceberg - what if you get blundermoves on a random basis too?
>>
>>I am completing 600 blitz games and Fritz 7 hangs overhelmingly superior than
>>any other engine!
>>
>>However I am not sure if it plays with fullblooded strength from other
>>interfaces.
>>
>>Thank you and bye for now
>>
>>Karen
>
>I used to Wonder if an engine plays better within it's own interface. Never
>knowing if that was really the case. According to what I have read hear on CCC,
>it seems that that really is the case.
>So I would use the interface for my newest and strongest engine.
>That raises a QUESTION though!!!!
>If that is the case, then engine tournaments run on the same computer within the
>same interface would give FALSE RESULTS!!in addition to the problem of not being
>able to use permanent brain, due to the fact that each program would steal
>processing time from the other program.
>And I believe the Permanent Brain feature is an integral part of a chess
>program.
>Keep the interesting points coming.
>Bye
>Brian

You've got an interesting point. If an interface bears in some way on the
respective engine performance, so every engine match is fully biased, or we have
to be patient enough to double every match series so that they run twice: one
for each engine interface home.

That is a somewhat clumsy way to tackle with engines, but a logical consequence
of the premisses involved.

Tks for replying

Karen



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