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Subject: Re: Fritz 7 glitches?

Author: Chessfun

Date: 01:00:30 01/26/02

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On January 25, 2002 at 20:27:32, karen Dall Lynn wrote:

>On January 25, 2002 at 17:56:44, Brian Katz wrote:
>
>>On January 24, 2002 at 22:08:24, karen Dall Lynn wrote:
>>
>>>On January 24, 2002 at 21:57:55, Brian Katz wrote:
>>>
>>>>It appears that many many Fritz 7 problems are surfacing as time goes on.      A
>>>>number of times when trying to access the crosstable during an engine
>>>>tournament, the program would unload on me. A dialogue box with "Program
>>>>Exception" and an numbered address would appear. Click to close the box and the
>>>>program would unload.
>>>> Now I at least wait until the opening is over before I even try to bring up the
>>>>crosstable. For a while I could not follow the results of a tournament until it
>>>>ended. Even then it would close out just after the attempt to access the
>>>>crosstable from the recent tournament when right clicking onto a given game from
>>>>the database. It would then allow me to bring up the crosstable when I reloaded
>>>>the program. Other times it would work just fine. Lately, everything has been
>>>>just fine, however.
>>>>
>>>>Notice you do not see RATINGS of the players or Programs in the Fritz 7 database
>>>>window, when applying ratings to them. You will see the newly applied rating
>>>>when you open up the rating window.
>>>>In Fritz 6 and Deep Fritz, you would see the new ratings alongside the players
>>>>name in the database player selection window.
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps they released the Fritz 7 program a little too soon. On the other hand,
>>>>we at least have the latest Fritz engine which is stronger than it's
>>>>predecessor. One can always use the Upgraded engine in the Fritz 6, Junior 6 or
>>>>Deep Fritz interfaces, without having all the other problems.
>>>>
>>>>Brian
>>>
>>>I am inclined to agree with you, mainly from a psychological point of view.
>>>
>>>I am developing a kind of fear on clicking the most ordinary commands during
>>>ongoing games, expecting something could go wrong in the wrong time. What
>>>worries me about buggies is that we never know if they are just the peak of an
>>>iceberg - what if you get blundermoves on a random basis too?
>>>
>>>I am completing 600 blitz games and Fritz 7 hangs overhelmingly superior than
>>>any other engine!
>>>
>>>However I am not sure if it plays with fullblooded strength from other
>>>interfaces.
>>>
>>>Thank you and bye for now
>>>
>>>Karen
>>
>>I used to Wonder if an engine plays better within it's own interface. Never
>>knowing if that was really the case. According to what I have read hear on CCC,
>>it seems that that really is the case.
>>So I would use the interface for my newest and strongest engine.
>>That raises a QUESTION though!!!!
>>If that is the case, then engine tournaments run on the same computer within the
>>same interface would give FALSE RESULTS!!in addition to the problem of not being
>>able to use permanent brain, due to the fact that each program would steal
>>processing time from the other program.
>>And I believe the Permanent Brain feature is an integral part of a chess
>>program.
>>Keep the interesting points coming.
>>Bye
>>Brian
>
>You've got an interesting point. If an interface bears in some way on the
>respective engine performance, so every engine match is fully biased, or we have
>to be patient enough to double every match series so that they run twice: one
>for each engine interface home.


AFAIK the interface has NO bearing in how any Chessbase engine plays.
Fritz 7 will play the same within any other CB interface and moves and
times can easily be duplicated.

Sarah.





>That is a somewhat clumsy way to tackle with engines, but a logical consequence
>of the premisses involved.
>
>Tks for replying
>
>Karen



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