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Subject: Re: Some Philosophical questions on the limits of Computer chess

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 15:11:45 01/26/02

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On January 26, 2002 at 17:48:00, Roy Eassa wrote:

>On January 25, 2002 at 19:47:44, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On January 25, 2002 at 19:33:24, Albert Silver wrote:
>>[snip]
>>>Ok, here's a question that would be interesting to answer: Take all the
>>>tablebases and see what the numbers (quantity and percentile stats) of
>>>non-losing moves in positions where a non-losing move exists. And if possible, a
>>>breakdown of those numbers to compare between numbers of pieces on the board.
>>>Just to see whether a tendency in changes of stats according to the number of
>>>pieces (3-4-5-6) is detectable.
>>
>>A more interesting question is to see with 6 men on the board in a position that
>>is somewhat complicated and can be won/lost/drawn -- what percentage of moves by
>>super GM's are not mistakes.  I am guessing about 80-90%.  It would be nice to
>>have a study to find out.
>>
>>I suspect with 4 or 5, it's a lot higher, but you have to get that far first.
>
>
>
>Not just GMs.  GMs rated 2800 (a MUCH smaller set).  Might bring your 80-90% up
>to 95-98%, especially if time trouble is not an issue.

I remember some time ago there was a game with Shirov versus some other top guy.
They had an kqkr endgame and the king+queen player was unable to win.
Now that is a relative easy endgame since there's only four pieces, more
imperfection with increased complexity would not be unexpected IMO.

-S.



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