Author: Eugene Nalimov
Date: 21:47:04 01/26/02
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11(6) means 11 plies in software, plus 6 more in the hardware. That was discussed here and on r.g.c.c. several times. Eugene On January 27, 2002 at 00:43:12, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On January 26, 2002 at 20:01:22, Vine Smith wrote: > >>On January 26, 2002 at 08:43:41, K. Burcham wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>could you please explain 15/89 >>> is this the same as todays programs. is the 15 a depth value? >>>is the 89 also a depth value, but for selected extensions that are searched >>>deeper? >>> >>>what is the :24 24 minutes 24 seconds >>> >>>dont think it is depth 15 with the 89 meaning 89 minutes. >>> >>> >>>another question. look at line 11 under move 25. [TIMEOUT] >>>wonder what the time control was set to. where they letting >>>the deep blue operators force a move, could they do a "move now"? >>>"timeout" referring to what, does this mean deep blue has decided >>>to move and stop thinking for a better eval in this position? >>> >>>another question. what are the ( ) values. example (43). >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------------- >>>--> 25. Rca1 <-- 15/89:24 >>>--------------------------------------- >>>hash guess Qc7d8,Guessing Qd8 >>> 8(4) #[f4](30)[f4](30) 30^ T=0 >>>pf2f4 Pe5f4p be3f4P Nh7f6 qe2f2 Pa6a5 pb4a5P >>> 8(6) #[f4](43)######################################### 43 T=2 >>>pf2f4 Pe5f4p be3f4P Nh7f6 qe2f2 Pa6a5 pb4a5P >>> 9(6) #[f4](43)##<ch> 'qd8' >>>[221 sec (main.c:1847)][cont]####################################### 43 T=33 >>>pf2f4 Pe5f4p be3f4P Nh7f6 qe2f2 Pa6a5 pb4a5P >>>10(6) #[f4](41)##################[Kh2](42)#######[Bd1](45)############### 45 >>>T=119 >>>bc2d1 Nh7f6 qe2a2 Ra8b8 pa4b5P Pa6b5p bd1f3 Pg7g6 >>>11(6) #[Bd1](43)#[f4](46)[TIMEOUT] 46 T=234 >>>pf2f4 Pe5f4p be3f4P Rc8b8 bf4e3 Bf8e7 pa4b5P Pa6b5p be3a7 Rb8b7 >>>--------------------------------------- >>>--> 26. f4 <-- 14/85:39 >>>--------------------------------------- >>>hash guess Pe5f4p,Guessing exf4 >>> 8(4) #[Bxf4](30)[Bxf4](30) 30^ T=1 >>>be3f4P Rc8b8 bf4e3 Bf8e7 pa4b5P Pa6b5p be3a7 Rb8b7 >>> 8(6) #[Bxf4](41)######################################### 41 T=3 >>>be3f4P Rc8b8 bf4e3 Bf8e7 pa4b5P Pa6b5p be3a7 Rb8b7 >>> 9(6) #[Bxf4](45)######################################### 45 T=17 >>>be3f4P Rc8b8 bf4e3 Bf8e7 pa4b5P Pa6b5p be3a7 Rb8b7 >>>10(6) #[Bxf4](39)######################################### 39 T=68 >>>be3f4P Nh7f6 bf4e3 Pa6a5 be3d4 Pa5b4p pc3b4P Pb5a4p bc2a4P Bf8e7 >>>11(6) #[Bxf4](39)##<ch> 'nf6' >>>--------------------------------------- >>>thanks >>>kburcham >> >>The 15/89:24 is fairly simple -- 15 moves left until next time control, likewise >>89 minutes, 24 seconds left until next time control. The [TIMEOUT] is, I >>believe, an internal process of the program, and not the result of operator >>intervention; I have not read any accounts of Deep Blue operators forcing moves >>in the manner you suggest. >>The depth of the search can be determined by adding the two numbers at the >>beginning of the last line of each move's log, so at move 25, Deep Blue looked >>17 plies ahead (11+6). I think the first value, 11, is brute force search, and >>the second value, 6, is a selective search extension of some sort. > >11(6) means 11 ply depth. > >it is theoretical impossible to search with so little nodes a second >17 ply fullwidth without hashtables and without pruning, and we know >that they didn't forward prune, also many comparisions from Uri Blass >have revealed that Crafty tactical (not exactly a tactical hero) >at 15 ply sees more than Deep Blue at 17 ply and diep at the same depth >(because it is using singular extensions) usually sees the same things >or more. > >Best regards, >Vincent > >>Regards, >>Vine Smith
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