Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Can any program find this stalemate idea? OOPS

Author: Roy Eassa

Date: 16:03:21 01/27/02

Go up one level in this thread


On January 27, 2002 at 19:00:47, Roy Eassa wrote:

>On January 27, 2002 at 18:49:28, Roy Eassa wrote:
>
>>On January 27, 2002 at 18:22:33, Andrew Smith wrote:
>>
>>>I don't know about how well programs are to find draws by stalemate. It looks
>>>like some have big problems. The lines begins with Rc4. I guess if your program
>>>finds the first move the rest should follow.
>>>
>>>[D]8/p7/P2p1p2/3n4/R2P3K/1p2P1N1/P1p2P1k/Rn6 w KQkq - 0 1
>>
>>
>>With help from Fritz 7, I think White can draw, however I don't see where the
>>stalemate comes into the picture:
>>
>>1.Rc4! b2 2.Rxc2 bxa1Q 3.f4+ Kg1 4.Kh3 Nxe3 5.Rh2 d5 6.f5 Qc3 7.Ne2+ Kf1 8.Nxc3
>>Nxc3 9.Rb2 Ne2 10.Rb6 Ng1+ 11.Kg3 Nxf5+ 12.Kf4 Nxd4 13.Rxf6 Ke2 14.Ke5 Kd3
>>15.Rf7 Nge2 16.Kxd5 Nc3+ 17.Kd6 Nxa2=
>
>
>Forget what I posted.  Black's 5...d5? is a bad move; Black can still win with
>5...f5!
>
>
>But I think I see the real draw (and the stalemate mentioned):
>
>1.Rc4! b2 2.Rxc2 bxa1Q 3.f3+!
>   [3.f4+ Kg1 4.Kh3 Nxe3 5.Rh2 d5?
>      (5...f5! 6.Ne2+ Kf1 7.Ng3+ Ke1 8.Re2+ Kd1 wins)
>    6.f5 Qc3 7.Ne2+ Kf1 8.Nxc3 Nxc3 9.Rb2 Ne2 10.Rb6 Ng1+
>    11.Kg3 Nxf5+ 12.Kf4 Nxd4 13.Rxf6 Ke2 14.Ke5 Kd3
>    15.Rf7 Nge2 16.Kxd5 Nc3+ 17.Kd6 Nxa2 =]
>
>3...Kg1 4.Kh3! Nxe3 5.Rh2 f5 6.f4 d5 7.a3! Qc3
>   [7...Qxa3 8.Rg2+ Nxg2 stalemate]
>
>8.Ne2+ Kf1 9.Nxc3 Nxc3 10.Rb2 Ne2 11.Rb7 Nxf4+ 12.Kh4=


Black should take the draw with 7...Qxa3 because the correct evaluation of the
line starting with 7...Qc3 may actually be a win for White!



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.