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Subject: Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play?

Author: Amir Ban

Date: 03:33:26 01/28/02

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On January 28, 2002 at 06:12:53, Ed Schröder wrote:

>>Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play?
>
>In the end yes.
>
>It is my (new) opinion that the nature of chess is just search.
>
>Elo progress of (professional) chess programs...
>
>1990 - elo 2000 (average depth 6-8) (TC 40/2h)
>1995 - elo 2300 (average depth 8-10)
>2000 - elo 2500 (average depth 11-13)
>2002 - elo 2600 (average depth 12-14)
>

This begs the question, because the programs are newer and play positionally
different. Will a 1990/1995 program perform 2600+ on today's hardware ?
Doubtful.


>No way to stop it.
>
>No suprise Kasparov lost against Deep Blue.

It was a surprise because he is clearly better.

>
>The sad future: it will be in the headlines when a grandmaster occasionally will
>win from a computer.
>

If this will happen due to positionally outplaying will you also consider it sad
?

Amir

• Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Ed Schröder 05:03:08 01/28/02
  • Re: That is an interesting theory, Ed ! Otello Gnaramori 02:44:08 01/29/02
    • Re: That is an interesting theory, Ed ! Ed Schröder 03:05:44 01/29/02
  • Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Vincent Diepeveen 09:59:19 01/28/02
    • Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Uri Blass 11:24:32 01/28/02
  • Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Uri Blass 05:14:51 01/28/02
• Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Uri Blass 03:49:12 01/28/02
• Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Albert Silver 03:42:25 01/28/02
  • Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Amir Ban 04:35:13 01/28/02
    • Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Uri Blass 05:06:38 01/28/02
  • Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Uri Blass 03:58:25 01/28/02
    • Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Albert Silver 04:11:05 01/28/02
      • Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Uri Blass 04:29:03 01/28/02
        • Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Albert Silver 04:33:59 01/28/02
          • Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Amir Ban 04:42:39 01/28/02
            • Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Ed Schröder 05:15:04 01/28/02
              • Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Dave Gomboc 07:34:19 01/28/02
              • Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Uri Blass 06:27:20 01/28/02
              • Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Severi Salminen 05:50:37 01/28/02
            • Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Albert Silver 04:46:03 01/28/02
          • Re: Will TACTIC's eventually REFUTE! Positional play? Uri Blass 04:36:47 01/28/02

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