Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 06:26:34 01/28/02
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On January 28, 2002 at 09:02:19, Andreas Stabel wrote: >On January 28, 2002 at 08:49:04, Eduard Nemeth wrote: > >>On January 28, 2002 at 07:17:50, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On January 28, 2002 at 04:35:34, Jouni Uski wrote: >>> >>>>[D]1K6/1P6/5k2/8/6pp/1R6/8/2r5 w - - >>>> >>>>Is this still a draw? Yace and Crafty evaluate 0.00 after quite a long analysis >>>>(with 4 piece TBs). >>>> >>>>Jouni >>> >>>Yace analysis at move 64(KRKPP was not used) >>> >>>It seems that the decisive blunder was 64.Rb4+ >>> >>>Fritz 7.0.0.6 - QuarkX >>>[D]1K6/1P6/8/1R6/5kpp/8/8/2r5 w - - 0 1 >>> >>>Analysis by Yace 0.99.56: >>> >>>64.Rc5 Rxc5 >>> -+ (-8.77) Depth: 1 00:00:05 >>>64.Rd5 >>> -+ (-1.56) Depth: 1 00:00:05 >>>64.Rh5 >>> -+ (-1.52) Depth: 1 00:00:05 >>>64.Rh5 h3 >>> -+ (-1.78) Depth: 2 00:00:05 >>>64.Rb4+ Kf3 >>> -+ (-1.54) Depth: 2 00:00:05 >>>64.Rb4+ Kf3 65.Ka7 >>> -+ (-1.52) Depth: 2 00:00:05 >>>64.Rb4+ Kf3 65.Rb3+ Ke4 66.Rb4+ Kf5 >>> -+ (-1.50) Depth: 3 00:00:05 >>>64.Rb4+ Kf3 65.Rb3+ Kf2 66.Rb2+ Kg3 67.Rb3+ Kg2 68.Rb2+ Kh3 >>> -+ (-1.43) Depth: 4 00:00:05 >>>64.Ka7 h3 65.b8Q+ Kf3 >>> -+ (-1.42) Depth: 4 00:00:05 >>>64.Ka7 Rc7 65.Kb6 Rxb7+ 66.Kxb7 >>> ± (1.35) Depth: 4 00:00:05 >>>64.Ka7 Rc7 65.Rb4+ Kf3 66.Kb6 Rxb7+ 67.Kxb7 >>> ± (1.37) Depth: 5 00:00:05 5kN >>>64.Ka7 Rc7 65.Rb4+ Kf3 66.Ka8 Rxb7 67.Rxb7 >>> ± (1.21) Depth: 6 00:00:05 10kN >>>64.Ka7 Rc7 65.Ka6 Rxb7 66.Rxb7 h3 67.Rf7+ Ke4 68.Kb5 >>> ± (1.21) Depth: 7 00:00:05 24kN >>>64.Ka7 Rc7 65.Ka6 Rxb7 66.Rxb7 h3 67.Rf7+ Kg3 68.Kb5 Kh2 >>> ± (1.16) Depth: 8 00:00:05 41kN >>>64.Ka7 Rc7 65.Ka6 Rxb7 66.Rxb7 h3 67.Rf7+ Ke5 68.Rh7 Kf4 69.Kb5 >>> ± (1.12) Depth: 9 00:00:05 186kN >>>64.Ka7 Rc7 65.Ka6 Rxb7 66.Rxb7 g3 67.Rf7+ Ke5 68.Re7+ Kf4 69.Kb5 g2 70.Kb6 g1Q+ >>>71.Kb7 >>> ± (0.72) Depth: 10 00:00:07 557kN >>>64.Ka7 Rc7 65.Ka6 Rxb7 66.Rxb7 g3 67.Rf7+ Ke5 68.Rg7 Kf4 69.Rf7+ Ke5 70.Rg7 Kf4 >>>71.Rf7+ >>> = (0.00) Depth: 10 00:00:07 621kN >>>64.Ka7 Rc7 65.Ka6 Rxb7 66.Rxb7 g3 67.Rb4+ Kf3 68.Rb3+ Ke4 69.Rb4+ Ke5 70.Rg4 Kf5 >>>71.Rg8 Ke5 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 11 00:00:15 1867kN >>>64.Ka7 Rc7 65.Rb4+ Kf5 66.Rb5+ Kf4 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 12 00:00:24 4734kN >>>64.Ka7 Rc7 65.Rb4+ Kf3 66.Rb3+ Kg2 67.Rb4 Kh3 68.Kb6 Rxb7+ 69.Kxb7 g3 70.Rb5 g2 >>>71.Rg5 >>> = (-0.01) Depth: 13 00:00:41 10328kN >>>64.Rb4+ Kf5 65.Ka7 Rc7 66.Rb5+ Kf4 67.Rb4+ Kf3 68.Rb3+ Kf2 69.Rb2+ Kg3 70.Ka8 >>>Rxb7 71.Kxb7 h3 72.Kc8 h2 73.Rb1 Kg2 74.Kd7 h1Q 75.Rb2+ Kh3 76.Rb3+ g3 77.Rb4 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 13 00:01:03 16153kN >>>64.Rb4+ Kf5 65.Ka7 Rc7 66.Rb5+ Kf4 67.Rb4+ Kf3 68.Rb3+ Kf2 69.Rb2+ Kg3 70.Ka8 >>>Rxb7 71.Kxb7 h3 72.Kc8 h2 73.Rb1 Kg2 74.Kd7 h1Q >>> = (0.00) Depth: 13 00:01:06 17098kN >>>64.Rb4+ Kf5 65.Ka7 Rc7 66.Ka8 Rxb7 67.Rxb7 h3 68.Rh7 Kg6 69.Rh4 h2 70.Rxh2 Kg5 >>>71.Rh7 g3 72.Rh8 Kf5 73.Rg8 Kf4 74.Rh8 g2 75.Rg8 Kf3 76.Rf8+ Kg3 77.Rg8+ Kh3 >>>78.Rh8+ Kg3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 14 00:01:54 31448kN >>>64.Rb4+ Kf5 65.Ka8 Ra1+ 66.Kb8 Rc1 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 15 00:03:51 67128kN >>>64.Rb4+ Kg3 65.Ka8 Ra1+ 66.Kb8 Kh3 >>> = (-0.01) Depth: 16 00:09:57 163516kN >>>64.Ka8 Ra1+ 65.Kb8 Rc1 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 16 00:19:33 317293kN >>>64.Ka8 Ra1+ 65.Kb8 Rc1 66.Rb4+ Kg3 67.Ka8 Ra1+ 68.Kb8 Kh3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 16 00:19:34 317463kN >>>64.Ka8 Ra1+ 65.Kb8 Rc1 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 17 00:23:02 354189kN >>> >>>(Blass, Tel-aviv 28.01.2002) >>> >>>Uri >> >>After this Analysien I seems a win vor black: >> >> >>[D]1K6/1P6/8/1R6/5kpp/8/8/2r5 w - - 0 1 >> >>1.Ka8 Ra1+ 2.Kb8 Re1! 3.Rb4+ Kg3 4.Rb3+ [4.Ka7 Re7-+; >>4.Ka8 Re8+-+; >>4.Kc7 Re7+ 5.Kd6 Re8 6.Rb3+ (6.Kd7 Rb8-+) 6...Kh2! 7.Rb4 Kh3-+] 4...Kg2 5.Rb2+ >>Kh3-+ >> >>What says you Uri? >> >>Regards, >>Eduard > >Crafty with 5 man EGTBs - still a draw: >14-> 9:37 0.00 1. Rb6+ Kf5 2. Ka7 Ra1+ 3. Kb8 h3 4. > Kc8 h2 5. b8=Q Rc1+ 6. Kd8 h1=Q 7. > Rb5+ Kg6 8. Qd6+ Kh7 9. Qe7+ Kh6 10. > Qf8+ Kg6 11. Qg8+ Kf6 12. Qxg4 > >Regards >Andreas Stabel Hi, nach welchem Zug (Position?) Rb6+ -- Diagram möglich? This is the wey to draw: [D]1K6/1P6/8/1R6/5kpp/8/8/2r5 w - - 0 1 1.Rb4+ Kf3 2.Ka8 Ra1+ 3.Kb8 Re1! 4.Rb3+ Kg2 5.Kc7!= Re7+ 6.Kd6 Rxb7 7.Rxb7 = But, Fritz 7 cannot plays this endgame (with TBS) ! :-(( Fritz 7 kann nicht spielen so, er hätte mehrmals "trotz TBS" gewaltig gepatzt! :-(( Eduard
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