Author: karen Dall Lynn
Date: 06:30:18 01/28/02
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On January 28, 2002 at 07:33:05, Tina Long wrote: >On January 28, 2002 at 07:06:47, pavel wrote: > >>On January 28, 2002 at 07:03:02, Sergei Smith wrote: >> >>>On January 28, 2002 at 05:36:30, Albert Silver wrote: >>> >>>>On January 27, 2002 at 23:38:32, pavel wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 27, 2002 at 23:28:51, Brian Katz wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>As an experiment, I renamed and removed my chessbase folder from Program Files >>>>>>and placed it elsewhere. >>>>>> I then installed the Fritz 6 Program. >>>>>> I then ran the Fritz 7 upgrade. There was no change to the interface, but the >>>>>>7,0,0,6 Fritz 7 engine appeared in the Engines folder. Modified date: Jan 11, >>>>>>2002 >>>>>>Are there any others, who have found this to be true as well? >>>>>>I have heard that this has happened within the Shredder Interface. >>>>>>Brian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I have only junior 6 installed in my system, since i can learn all my programs >>>>>in one GUI. And I used the fritz7 upgrade, without having fritz7 or Shredder6 >>>>>installed at this moment, and I got the new engine, the same way you got it. >>>>> >>>>>First I found it too good to be true, so i reported it to chessbase, writing 3 >>>>>seperate mails, confirming my finding is 3 differant conditions. >>>>>They don't seem to care about it. Why should I ? >>>>> >>>>>;) >>>>> >>>>>So a free (the strongest) engine goes to everyone. >>>>>Chessbase in deep shit. >>>>> >>>>>pavs >>>> >>>>It won't last. I posted a warning at the CSS. It is extremely serious, and >>>>Morsch doesn't deserve to see that happen to his fine work. >>>> >>>> Albert >>> >>>There _is_ a commercial maneuver behind it and a very clever one too. >>>They want more people to have access to their chess server and to run their >>>Fritz 7 engine. Thus they will establish a monopoly. >>>Nothing in life is free even if it seems to be free. >> >> >>no conspiracy, you dont buy fritz7 you don't get to fritz7 server. >>With the update, you only get the engine free. >>It a bizarre situation. >> >>pavs > >Chessbase made the same blunder with Fritz6. >They provided an update (service pack?) over the internet, that allowed simple >seperation of the Engine, that could then be used in any Chessbase GUI. > >It was dissapointing to pay (for me) $100AU and then see smart-aleky boastful >people getting the Engine for free. It is more annoying when they have >apparently done the same thing again. Arn't these the Company that used to >require a "dongle" to run their products? Now they just give away their >products to anybody with a bit of internet nouse. > >I agree entirely with Albert that it is particularly unfair to Frans, & I >applaud Albert for actually doing something about it. > >Tina Long In certain matters, be them commercial or simply life matters, there seems to be no alternativ to personal moral sensibility. There are a number of ways by which people may get access to paid software, yet do not paying for the software. Developers are somehow helpless against this. Now Fritz 7 engine is already built in on the service pack file, as it was in the GUI7 files and extant, distributed CDs of other CB interfaces will welcome it to run. This cannot be fixed. Does it make those consummers who's paid for the same engine feel kinda uneasy? Yes. Was that intentional by CB team? I don't know but it seems to me as a good faith bias. Does it hurt CB budget? I don't think so. Those who trade off free engines or patches very likely would never be regular custommers. Is it fine advertisement? Yes, it is and it is for free... to CB! The broadcasting of this engine may create an adidional demand much bigger than that represented by the folks who will not buy the full pack after getting the engine for free. Are the later cheating? No, the apple is being given to them from the appletree, then just grab it in a "why not" mood. I personally would not be satisfied in having the engine only and I believe many people would feel and act the same way. I think the interface is cool and for technical reasons I want to have the entire CB library and the entire Fritz family/friends at my university and wanna pay for that. Or, there is nothing but a personal morals to help us on that. Regards, Karen
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