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Subject: Re: Testposition from CCT4

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 13:51:48 01/28/02

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On January 28, 2002 at 14:18:14, Gerd Isenberg wrote:

>From CCT4-10 IsiChessX - PostModernist 0-1
>
>Does your program avoid Qc8 ?
>
>[D] 6k1/4bppp/2p3n1/5Q2/1qPB4/1P1R1BP1/r6P/7K w - - am Qc8
>
>In this position after 34.Qc8+ Nf8, IsiChess failed even more with 35.Qxc6??
>
>[D] 2Q2nk1/4bppp/2p5/8/1qPB4/1P1R1BP1/r6P/7K w - - am Qxc6
>
>After 34.Qc8? Nf8 IsiChess got a FailLow with Qxc6 and a very bad search
>behaviour. The first one at depth 10 from +130 to +95 after 0:10, a second one
>at depth 13 after 1:45 resp. 2:06 from +106 ..via +65-- to -164. Few moments
>later, i got an exploding search tree looking for 35.Bc3.
>
>After 11:10 it came back with a score of -0.88 and after 18:18 it found Rd1 with
>-0.83. But unfortunally during the game, my maxTime exceeds (aprox. 3*averadge
>time), signaled the Search thread to terminate unconditionally after aprox. 8
>Minutes - and IsiChess played Qxc6??
>
>Seems that the FailLow behaviour of my Search needs some work, may be too many
>extensions, but the wrong. Also i have to think about interrupting the Search in
>these FailLow situations. Most often my branching factor seems OK, but sometimes
>these terrible exceptions.
>
>Very impressed of PostModernist 33...Qb4!

I wouldn't exactly hang my head over it if I were you.  I think almost every
program will play it exactly like yours did.  For example, look at this:

EPD Kit revision date: 1996.04.21
unable to open book file [e:\crafty\release/books.bin].
hash table memory = 48M bytes.
pawn hash table memory = 6M bytes.
EGTB cache memory = 32M bytes.
draw score set to    0.00 pawns.
choose from book moves randomly (using weights.)
choose from 5 best moves.
book learning enabled
result learning enabled
position learning enabled
threshold set to 9 pawns.
5 piece tablebase files found
19045kb of RAM used for TB indices and decompression tables

Crafty v18.13

White(1): st  999
search time set to 999.00.
White(1): epdpfga \qc8.epd qc8.out
PFGA: EPD record: 1
middle-game phase
              clearing hash tables
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 16:39 (16:39)
         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
                5     0.23   0.22   1. Bg1 c5 2. Bd5 Nh8 3. Be3
                5->   0.28   0.22   1. Bg1 c5 2. Bd5 Nh8 3. Be3
                6     0.37   0.12   1. Bg1 Ra1 2. Qc8+ Bf8 3. Re3 c5 4.
                                    Qf5
                6     0.46   0.39   1. Qc8+ Bf8 2. Qe8 c5 3. Bd5 Ra7 4.
                                    Be3
                6->   0.60   0.39   1. Qc8+ Bf8 2. Qe8 c5 3. Bd5 Ra7 4.
                                    Be3
                7     0.73     --   1. Qc8+
                7     1.18  -0.09   1. Qc8+ Bf8 2. Qe8 c5 3. Bd5 Nh8 4.
                                    Bg1 Qa3 <HT>
                7     1.63   0.10   1. Bg1 Ra1 2. Qc8+ Bf8 3. Qe8 Qb6 4.
                                    Rd1 Rxd1 5. Bxd1
                7->   2.23   0.10   1. Bg1 Ra1 2. Qc8+ Bf8 3. Qe8 Qb6 4.
                                    Rd1 Rxd1 5. Bxd1
                8     2.62  -0.15   1. Bg1 Ra1 2. Qc8+ Bf8 3. Qe8 Re1 4.
                                    Be4 Qc5 5. Rd4
                8     3.39   0.19   1. Qc8+ Bf8 2. Qe8 c5 3. Bd5 Ra7 4.
                                    Bb2 Re7 5. Qd8
                8->   5.15   0.19   1. Qc8+ Bf8 2. Qe8 c5 3. Bd5 Ra7 4.
                                    Bb2 Re7 5. Qd8
                9     6.10   0.35   1. Qc8+ Bf8 2. Qe8 c5 3. Bd5 Ra7 4.
                                    Bf2 Nh8 5. Kg1 Ra1+ 6. Kg2
                9->   8.09   0.35   1. Qc8+ Bf8 2. Qe8 c5 3. Bd5 Ra7 4.
                                    Bf2 Nh8 5. Kg1 Ra1+ 6. Kg2
               10    12.56   0.71   1. Qc8+ Bf8 2. Qe8 Rc2 3. Bg1 Rc1 4.
                                    Bd1 c5 5. Rd7 Nh8 6. Be3
               10->  16.02   0.71   1. Qc8+ Bf8 2. Qe8 Rc2 3. Bg1 Rc1 4.
                                    Bd1 c5 5. Rd7 Nh8 6. Be3
               11    24.52   0.64   1. Qc8+ Bf8 2. Qe8 c5 3. Bd5 Nh8 4.
                                    Rf3 Ra7 5. Bc3 Qxb3 6. Qxf8+ Kxf8 7.
                                    Bxg7+ Kxg7 8. Rxb3
               11->  38.92   0.64   1. Qc8+ Bf8 2. Qe8 c5 3. Bd5 Nh8 4.
                                    Rf3 Ra7 5. Bc3 Qxb3 6. Qxf8+ Kxf8 7.
                                    Bxg7+ Kxg7 8. Rxb3
               12    52.23   0.41   1. Qc8+ Bf8 2. Qe8 c5 3. Bd5 Nh8 4.
                                    Rf3 Ra7 5. Bf2 Ra1+ 6. Kg2 Ra7 7. Kg1
                                    Ra1+ 8. Kg2
               12->   1:50   0.41   1. Qc8+ Bf8 2. Qe8 c5 3. Bd5 Nh8 4.
                                    Rf3 Ra7 5. Bf2 Ra1+ 6. Kg2 Ra7 7. Kg1
                                    Ra1+ 8. Kg2
               13     4:58     --   1. Qc8+
              time=16:39  cpu=99%  mat=0  n=603640638  fh=96%  nps=604k
              ext-> chk=49099535 cap=462815 pp=47294 1rep=4529141 mate=243482
              predicted=0  nodes=603640638  evals=0
              endgame tablebase-> probes done=0  successful=0
PFGA: EPD record: 2
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 16:39 (16:39)
         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
                2     0.00 -Mat06   1. Bxc6 Qe1+ 2. Bg1 Ra1 3. Qxf8+ Kxf8
                                    4. Rd8+ Bxd8 5. Kg2 Qf1+ 6. Kh1 Qxg1#
                                    <HT>
                2     0.02  -2.20   1. Qxc6 Qe1+ 2. Bg1 Ra1 3. Qb6 Qf1
                                    4. Be4 Qe2 5. Bf5 Ra2 6. Qb7 <HT>
                2     0.03  -0.43   1. Qf5 Qe1+ 2. Bg1 c5
                2     0.04  -0.38   1. Qh3 Qe1+ 2. Bg1
                2     0.04  -0.18   1. Re3 c5
                6     0.35  -0.41   1. Qg4 Bf6 2. Bg1 c5 3. Bd5 Qe1
                6->   0.42  -0.41   1. Qg4 Bf6 2. Bg1 c5 3. Bd5 Qe1
                7     0.47     --   1. Qg4
                7     0.84  -0.24   1. Qg4 Qe1+ 2. Bg1 Ra1 3. Qd4 c5 4.
                                    Qe3 Qf1 5. Bd5
                7->   0.96  -0.24   1. Qg4 Qe1+ 2. Bg1 Ra1 3. Qd4 c5 4.
                                    Qe3 Qf1 5. Bd5
                8     0.99     --   1. Qg4
                8     1.45  -2.36   1. Qg4 Qe1+ 2. Bg1 Ra1 3. Qd4 Ne6 4.
                                    Qe3 Qxe3 5. Rxe3 Bc5 6. Kg2 Bxe3 7.
                                    Bxe3
                8     2.25  -1.36   1. Rd1 c5 2. Ba1 Qxb3 3. Qg4 Ng6 4.
                                    Qc8+ Bf8 5. Qg4
                8     2.84  -1.32   1. Bc3 Qxb3 2. Qg4 <HT>
                8->   3.10  -1.32   1. Bc3 Qxb3 2. Qg4 <HT>
                9     3.10  -1.32   1. Bc3 Qxb3 2. Qg4 <HT>
                9->   4.15  -1.32   1. Bc3 Qxb3 2. Qg4 <HT>
               10     4.16  -1.32   1. Bc3 Qxb3 2. Qg4 <HT>
               10     6.96  -1.10   1. Rd1 c5 2. Bg1 Qxb3 3. Qb7 Qxb7 4.
                                    Bxb7 g6 5. h4 h6 6. Be3 Kg7
               10->   8.54  -1.10   1. Rd1 c5 2. Bg1 Qxb3 3. Qb7 Qxb7 4.
                                    Bxb7 g6 5. h4 h6 6. Be3 Kg7
               11    16.78  -1.10   1. Rd1 c5 2. Bg1 Qxb3 3. Qf5 g6 4.
                                    Qe4 Ne6 5. Rb1 Qc3 6. Rb8+ Bf8 7. Be3
               11->  23.60  -1.10   1. Rd1 c5 2. Bg1 Qxb3 3. Qf5 g6 4.
                                    Qe4 Ne6 5. Rb1 Qc3 6. Rb8+ Bf8 7. Be3
               12    38.21  -1.00   1. Rd1 c5 2. Bg1 Qxb3 3. Qb7 Qc3 4.
                                    Bd5 Qf6 5. Qc8 Ra1 6. Rxa1 Qxa1 7.
                                    Qf5 Bf6 <HT>
               12->   1:03  -1.00   1. Rd1 c5 2. Bg1 Qxb3 3. Qb7 Qc3 4.
                                    Bd5 Qf6 5. Qc8 Ra1 6. Rxa1 Qxa1 7.
                                    Qf5 Bf6 <HT>
               13     1:59  -1.00   1. Rd1 c5 2. Bg1 Qxb3 3. Qb7 Qc3 4.
                                    Bd5 Qf6 5. Qc8 Ra1 6. Rxa1 Qxa1 7.
                                    Qf5 Bf6 8. h3
               13     4:06     ++   1. Qxc6!!
               13->   5:13  -0.61   1. Qxc6
               14     5:16     --   1. Qxc6
               14     7:25  -2.45   1. Qxc6 Qe1+ 2. Bg1 Ra1 3. Qb6 Qf1
                                    4. Be4 Qe2 5. Bf5 g6 6. Qd4 gxf5 7.
                                    Re3 Qf1 8. Qxa1 Qxa1 9. Rxe7
               14    13:48  -0.97   1. Rd1 c5 2. Bg1 Qxb3 3. Qb7 Qc3 4.
                                    Bd5 Qf6 5. Qc6 Qxc6 6. Bxc6 g6 7. h4
                                    h6 8. Be3 Kg7
               14->  16:11  -0.97   1. Rd1 c5 2. Bg1 Qxb3 3. Qb7 Qc3 4.
                                    Bd5 Qf6 5. Qc6 Qxc6 6. Bxc6 g6 7. h4
                                    h6 8. Be3 Kg7
              time=16:39  cpu=100%  mat=0  n=540651496  fh=92%  nps=541k
              ext-> chk=24076432 cap=716616 pp=4652 1rep=2795371 mate=416776
              predicted=0  nodes=540651496  evals=0
              endgame tablebase-> probes done=0  successful=0



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