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Subject: Re: computer programs cannot see a very simple draw in a pawn ending

Author: Amir Ban

Date: 09:15:25 06/22/98

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On June 22, 1998 at 10:02:42, blass uri wrote:

>The position 3k4/2p1p1p1/p1P1P1Pp/P6P/4K3/8/8/8
>white to move.
>
>every human can understand it is a draw but my programs cannot evaluate
>the position as 0.00
>Is there a program that understand it is a draw?
>( it is enough to use an hash table of 36*9*2=648 positions)
>
>Uri

This is a good example to see what your hash table can't do for you.

The problem is that all the positions here evaluate the same. None of them are
obviously drawn or obviously won, so the only way the search can find a draw
score is to find a repetition or 50 moves in the PV. White cannot be forced to
make a repetition, so the only hope is to search this to 100 ply, but this takes
too much time.

Amir




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