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Subject: Re: Kramnik Vs. Which Software questions......

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:31:09 01/29/02

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On January 29, 2002 at 08:54:54, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On January 29, 2002 at 08:27:46, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 29, 2002 at 07:44:37, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>
>>>On January 29, 2002 at 06:54:07, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 29, 2002 at 04:45:07, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If the match between Fritz and Kramnik will be held in October, I'm wondering on
>>>>>which program will be against Mr. Kramnik.
>>>>>The first chosen was Deep Fritz for its multiprocessor capabilities (can run on
>>>>>8 cpu's powered machine) , but meanwhile Fritz7 was out with a brand new
>>>>>powerful engine, though I'm not sure about its multiprocessor features of the
>>>>>latest... anybody knows ?
>>>>>
>>>>>w.b.r.
>>>>>Otello
>>>>
>>>>The first choice was not the commercial Deep Fritz and I think that you are
>>>>wrong to assume that chessbase is going to use something that is commercial.
>>>>
>>>
>>>1) Which was the first choice ?
>>
>>The first choice was secret Deep Fritz that was based on Fritz7 engine.
>>
>>>2) Why do not use something commercial since it can be advantaging from the
>>>incomes point of view...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I guess that multiprocessor capability is not important for 90% of the users so
>>>>chessbase has no reason to invest on commercial version of Fritz7 with more than
>>>>one processor.
>>>>
>>>
>>>So probably they will go for Deep Fritz if a multiprocessor machine will be
>>>used.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I also remember that people complained about Deep Fritz and claimed that for
>>>>some reason it is only slightly faster with 2 processors when Junior and
>>>>Shredder earns more speed from 2 processors so I believe that chessbase were
>>>>right when they did not release a multi processor version of Fritz(If they can
>>>>do it only 20 or 30% faster with 2 processors then there are not going to be
>>>>many people who are really interested in buying a multi-processor version of
>>>>Fritz).
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>But don't you think that Fritz7 is reasonably better than Deep Fritz engine, so
>>>what is the rational to use an inferior engine though if it's multiprocessor
>>>capable ?
>>
>>I agree that Fritz7 is better but the point is that I do not think that they
>>cannot use parallel Fritz7.
>>
>>The fact that they do not sell parallel Deep Fritz based on Fritz7 engine does
>>not mean that they do not have a parallel version of Fritz7.
>>
>>Uri
>
>If they do have a parallel version of Fritz7, time is only against Mr. Kramnik,
>since the longer they wait for the match, the faster the procesors are getting.
>
>Pichard.


actually the quads and 8-way boxes are lagging behind.  Memory bandwidth
becomes more important than ever...



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