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Subject: Re: Short Report from Frankfurt (Anand-Fritz)

Author: Roland Pfister

Date: 23:48:10 06/22/98

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On June 22, 1998 at 09:47:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 22, 1998 at 02:37:40, Roland Pfister wrote:
>
>>I was on saturday at the townhall to watch Anand - Fritz and perhaps
>>meet some computer chess freaks.
>>
>>But the only persons I knew were the two Matthiasses from ChessBase
>>and Frederic Friedel. Frederic was busy photgraphing or videoing, so
>>I had a small talk with Matthias W. and he told me that Fritz played the
>>open too, at that moment having 5 points out of 5. Not bad.
>>
>>Then Mathias F. arrived, he was the one to operate Fritz. I asked him
>>how they did parallize Fritz and he answered "MTDF", because they
>>did not have the time to do something clever like Bob.
>>
>>He also told me that they had tried out the SMP-Crafty on that machine
>>and that he thinks that there are still bugs in the parallel code: he had
>>seen a PV ending in mate, but with a value of 2.xx !
>
>
>He should have asked.  This is *not* a bug.  Remember that Crafty has a
>capture-only q-search, and it is possible that a simple capture also mates
>the opponent, but crafty won't notice this.  However, the PV-print routine
>does check after each move to see if the opponent is mated, so it can add
>the # to the mating move.  I see this on very rare occasions, although I
>have not seen any game-related problems so far.  But it isn't a bug, it is
>just odd behavior.
>

Why do you have a PV in q-search? Could save time and stop confusion :-)

>Should tell him that SMP-crafty has been playing for a couple of months and
>looks very solid to me, currently hovering around 3000 in rating on ICC,
>unless I break something before you check.  :)
>

That is your 4 processor Linux I assume. He has  two processor machine,
different compiler and different operating system, so there are many
possibilities where a bug or problem could show up.

>>
>>I told him that my program had played against a Crafty 15.10 (Killerchess)
>>and that that Crafty had spoiled a drawn rook ending into a loss, and
>>that it would be an explanation if that Crafty also ran on 2 processor NT
>>machine.
>>
>
>
>most commonly the opponent didn't have the right databases, or didn't have
>all of them, or simply didn't understand that position.  But it isn't SMP
>related...
>

It was a KPR-KPR endgame and he could have forced exchanges
to K-K, but perhaps the KK tablebase was missing :-))

>
Perhaps it is the best for you to contact Mathias Feist directly.



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