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Subject: Re: OT: Re: Mathematical impossibilities ..

Author: David Rasmussen

Date: 06:01:09 01/31/02

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On January 30, 2002 at 19:00:28, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On January 30, 2002 at 18:55:41, Andrew Dados wrote:
>[snip]
>>Do you really believe they searched 4 nodes *only* at first ply?
>
>Probably not.
>
>>18 ply with bf of 4 is x*4^17, where x is somewhere from 40 to 1000 depending on
>>how many nodes qsearch needs.
>>
>>for 32 nodes ridiculous minimum (say - no qsearch) it will be:
>>32x4^17/200M = 46 minutes to complete 18 ply.
>
>From what starting position?  Are we picking the most difficult position on the
>board?
>Here is an 18 ply search I did yesterday with Chess Tiger:
>[D]8/8/1p1r1k2/p1pP2p1/P3KnP1/1P3N2/8/3R4 w - - ce 72; acd 18; acs 600; pv Ne5
>Rd8 Nc4 Re8+ Kf3 Ne2 Rf1 Nd4+ Kg3+ Kg7 d6 Rd8 Rf2 Rd7 Rh2 b5 axb5 Nxb5
>Rh5;|Nf3e5
>
>It took all of 5 minutes.
>
>It seems that we are assuming that we *must* start with the most difficult
>imaginable position.

Please don't compare Chess Tiger's search to DB's. Tiger prunes heavily, DB did
not.

/David



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