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Subject: Re: Nalimov 9 CD Tablebases

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 06:20:34 01/31/02

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On January 31, 2002 at 09:15:26, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:

>On January 31, 2002 at 08:50:35, Albert Silver wrote:
>>That does bring up a question though regarding the laws of chess, which I think
>>I will submit to FIDE. The question is this: I know (unless the rule changed)
>>that if a player announces a definite mate in N before the time control though
>>he doesn't make the time control, the mate, if confirmed, is what stands and not
>>the clock. I wonder how an announced mate would affect the 50-move rule. For the
>>moment it can't AFAIK, and of course FIDE never expected to have to deal with an
>>announced mate going beyond the 50-move rule, still it is worth mentioning. They
>>may not allow computers in FIDE events theoretically, but the condition could
>>theoretically happen with a human (such as from those guys who memorize phone
>>books) so what then?
>
>This rule was new for me, I have only been playing in 12 year, so I looked it
>up:
>
><quote>
>5.1
>a) The game is won by the player who has checkmated his opponent's king. This
>immediately ends the game, provided that the move producing the checkmate
>position was a legal move.
>b) The game is won by the player whose opponent declares he resigns. This
>immediately ends the game.
>
>5.2
>a) The game is drawn when the player to move has no legal move and his king is
>not in check. The game is said to end in 'stalemate'. This immediately ends the
>game, provided that the move producing the stalemate position was legal.
>b) The game is drawn when a position has arisen in which neither player can
>checkmate the opponent's king with any series of legal moves. The game is said
>to end in a 'dead position'. This immediately ends the game, provided that the
>move producing the position was legal.
>c) The game is drawn upon agreement between the two players during the game.
>This immediately ends the game. (See Article 9.1)
>
>6.10  Except where Articles 5.1 or one of the Articles 5.2 (a), (b) and (c)
>apply, if a player does not complete the prescribed number of moves in the
>allotted time, the game is lost by the player. However, the game is drawn, if
>the position is such that the opponent cannot checkmate the player's king by any
>possible series of legal moves, even with the most unskilled counterplay.
></quote>
>
>I don't find anything about announcing a mate have something to do with it.
>
>Odd Gunnar

It could be that the rule was removed or changed, but that is what I was taught
some 10 years ago when starting to compete.

                                         Albert



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