Author: Marc van Hal
Date: 13:23:27 01/31/02
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On January 30, 2002 at 21:05:56, John Pahl wrote: >Hi, > >Do computer programs make it to easy to cheat? >I do not understand why anyone would be interested in playing chess online only >to cheat at it. > >Here is a website I thought was kind of interesting. >http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Realm/8655/ENGLISH/Part8_ENG.htm#Top > >How many people on this forum play great chess online but are really just >cheaters waiting to be caught? >.....no name please :) ....... > >Please don't anyone take that personaly. >Just my thoughts. >What do you think about chess programs and cheating? > >JP I started with rated games online over and over again getting cheated I many times went angry because I did see this as I am being cheated but destroying the fun of playing chess games online. And maybe destroying the total event. In the case of ICC I 1 time used a program against someone who used a program (Most of the time this happened when my rating went up So I could start from zero again.) in a match of 4 games And for god sake I did get a C on my name. ICC can't do anything good anymore for me after that event. I also many times asked cheaters who they where cheating me or themselves. Then you always get the denial stage. Then you give them more cleus how I know they cheated. Most of the time went on like a big quarel which did give me nothing but hate torwards all oponents I played. I then stopped this went out of hand for a while. I actualy don't play rated games anymore but even then you ocasionly play against a program (Program which is very favourable by cheaters is Chessmaster. I don't know why but it is. My gues it's the only program they own. Though some have some program knowledge because they use the Botviniks personelety. Which gives much better results in speed chess.} First I always went extremely angry but i changed my behaviour now I swalow the bulet and play some more games. Most of the time I then beat them 1 time then they disapear. Victory is mine. And if I don't win I don't feel to bad about it. I lost from a program who also can win from GM's so what? And yes on ICC some GM's do ocasionaly use programs. they don't get caught but I then just did send the two programs wich where used during the game wich makes them prety nervous. And I later on also told these GM's that I observed them cheating. But it is treu there are plenty of ways of getting cheated in an online game But today you even can't be to sure face to face . A tip watch always if the oponent doesn't go to make a pee Though 1 pee can be enough to have time to cheat. Maybe in the future chessplayers have to pee on the spot. Or if he is not having his hands in his pockets all the time. Regards Marc van Hal
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