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Subject: Re: This is getting boring

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:29:22 01/31/02

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On January 31, 2002 at 07:17:49, David Rasmussen wrote:

>On January 30, 2002 at 23:23:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On January 30, 2002 at 14:18:47, David Rasmussen wrote:
>>
>>>On January 30, 2002 at 10:12:25, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why are you blindly assuming that their effective branching factor
>>>>is 40, just because that is the average number of legal chess
>>>>moves? You should know better. And I know you do.
>>>>
>>>>They used PVS. Aspiration windows. Hashtables for the first TWELVE
>>>>plies. Even futility pruning.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Futility pruning? I don't think so. Hsu hated futility pruning, even in
>>>quiescence.
>>>
>>>/David
>>
>>
>>They _definitely_ used futility pruning in the hardware part of the search.
>>This was reported at several public presentations and was one of the features
>>they turned off to slow the processor down in the famous DB vs the micros
>>match...
>>
>>No idea if they used futility in the software search, but they definitely
>>used it in the hardware part as per their discussions...
>
>OK, I didn't know that. A newsgroup thread between you and Hsu from around 1990
>seemed to indicate that he thought that your q-search FP was the reason of many
>tactical mistakes, and that he considered it to be extremely unsound. So I
>assumed it wasn't in DB. But hey, you live and learn.
>
>/David


You are correct about the newsgroup discussion.  However, it appears that he
later "saw the light".  :)

I was surprised when I found out...  but it is logical...



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