Author: Uri Blass
Date: 00:00:59 02/01/02
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On February 01, 2002 at 02:22:38, Joshua Lee wrote:
>On January 30, 2002 at 20:01:04, walter irvin wrote:
>
>>it seems to me that deep blue was a great chess machine ,but i believe with deep
>>fritz and the right hardware a stronger machine could be had .i think it was
>>fritz 3 that proved that a pc could compete with the big boys .
>
>
>Nope, You should read my post on the 1995 match between DEEP THOUGHT and Fritz 3
>. This is only a decent example of Computer software at that time being within
>400 elo points of DT searching somewhere between 4 and 5 Million nodes for the
>14 processor Flavor and 6-7 million nodes for the 24 processor version.
>I am not sure how many VLSI Processors but i am sure what was playing and Deep
>Blue wasn't it.
>
>I can say one thing Fritz 7 would've played 13.g3 , and if it didn't it
>would've played 16.c4. DBP did see what was wrong with castling but
>communication line dropped .... but i have never heard anything about move 16 g3
>was the only chance to draw that game and Fritz 7 found the move soon and kept
>it ovenight.
I think that this communication story is about 16.c4 and not about castling but
they also drew with wchess and I am clearly not impressed by their result.
I believe that deep thought(1995) was only sligthly better than Fritz3(p90)
But so would many of today's programs , does that mean they are
>better no not unless you have a 9Ghz computer floating around . Ofcourse fritz
>Crafty Tiger etc would win games but not a match not unless they had equal
>hardware equal nodes ....
You believe too much in hardware
The top programs of today have superior software.
Deeper blue was better than the other programs thanks to better hardware inspite
of inferior software.
I do not blame the deep blue team.
They had to work hard on their hardware problems and it gave them less time to
concentrate on the software.
I believe that the top programs of today are better than deeper blue inspite of
inferior hardware thanks to better software.
Uri
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