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Subject: Re: More correct analysis here...

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 10:33:51 02/01/02

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On February 01, 2002 at 09:05:35, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>OK  Here is the email again:
>
>My first question to them was "did the X(Y) depth notation in Deep Thought
>mean X plies in software, Y additional plies in hardware as it did when I
>watched your program?"  Here is a reply from a member of the team:
>
>Quote On---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>In the DT logs, the number in () after the plies is indeed
>the depth of the HW.  It was changed dynamically, but only
>within a narror range (3, 4, somethimes 5). I would not
>be surprise if CB kept this notation, but I don't know for
>sure.
>
>As you say, too
>low, and the HW ends up idle because the host is too slow.
>Too high, and the host is bored...
>However the real reason for not letting the HW go too deep
>is search efficiency: the HW does not use the transposition
>table, hence it was best to balance the memory bandwidth
>availabe on the host for hash table accesses.
>
>Quote Off--------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>The second quote came as a response to my question "Does DB report the
>depth using the same form of the X(Y) notation as was used in Deep Thought?"
>Here is the answer, again:
>
>
>Quote On---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Hi,
>
>CB is in town this week and I had lunch with him, where we
>chatted a bit about DB and the like. A while back, when you
>looked over DB's logs (put up by Murray without IBM careing
>much), you were impressed by their depth and branching factor.
>
>Well, the depth notation is as I told you and just like it was
>in DT, so it really does go *that* deep...
>
>For example, in DT, 9(4) meant a 13 ply search.
>
>Quote Off--------------------------------------------------------------------


The last sentence is very convincing.


>That is the best I can do.  I asked about DT, which I saw _many_ times from
>behind their monitor and they explained the X(Y) notation as I have reported,
>several times.  I then asked if DB kept the same notation and CB (nickname for
>Hsu) said "yes it did."
>
>Can it be any more clear than that?

No it can not, according DB team 12(6) = 18.

However the statement conflicts with their own documentation, hence the
confusion.

So maybe I am wrong about the subject.

Ed



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