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Subject: Re: Crafty Final Scores + they're back!!

Author: pavel

Date: 20:12:27 02/01/02

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On February 01, 2002 at 22:45:55, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On February 01, 2002 at 22:35:20, pavel wrote:
>
>>On February 01, 2002 at 22:08:56, Tina Long wrote:
>>
>>>On February 01, 2002 at 21:39:41, pavel wrote:
>>>
>>>>crafty-1 home  2002
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>1   Crafty 17.14  2500   +85  34.5/56
>>>>2   Crafty 17.11  2500   +72  33.5/56
>>>>3   Crafty 18.11  2500   +65  33.0/56  918.00
>>>>4   Crafty 18.12  2500   +65  33.0/56  887.00
>>>>5   Crafty 18.01  2500   +58  32.5/56
>>>>6   Crafty 17.02  2500   +45  31.5/56  847.75
>>>>7   Crafty 18.13  2500   +45  31.5/56  847.50
>>>>8   Crafty 18.10  2500   +45  31.5/56  846.00
>>>>9   Crafty 17.01  2500   +39  31.0/56  855.50
>>>>10  Crafty 18.03  2500   +39  31.0/56  849.75
>>>....
>>>
>>>Keeping in mind the "worth" of these results:
>>>
>>>Good work Pavel, a very interesting tournament & I hope Jonas does follow up on
>>>this (I would suggest he use your rankings 1,2,4,5,6,7, against whatever he
>>>likes - JMO)
>>>
>>>I wonder now, when I quoted 17.16 as the best recently, if I had recalled
>>>wrongly & meant 17.14 (particularly as 17.16 doesn't exist)
>>>
>>>Anyway, Until I see Jonas' results I'm moving my 18.13 aside & installing 17.14.
>>>
>>>Incidently: http://www.chessbase.de./download/index.asp?cat=Engines
>>>
>>>"Search in this category"
>>>Search for Crafty, & http://www.chessbase.de./download/searchresult.asp
>>>gives all the Comets Craftys & the Bam Bam.
>>>
>>>Keep it up & please keep us informed,
>>>
>>>Tina
>>
>>
>>I don't know for sure, how much you can trust this score, but it can't be way
>>off-hand since this has been discussed (or tested) several times before that
>>these versions (17.14/17.11) are strong(er).
>>
>>Anyways, I am interested on Jonas test because, it will be on differant
>>platform, with ponder=on,and differant time control and with differant enignes.
>>
>>Summing it all up, it should be interesting for crafty fans. :)
>>
>>But again (if I know people over here well enough), someone will come up with
>>tossing coins and try to prove that he is a good statistician (and riduculously
>>relating that to chess), other will come with "ifs" and "buts" and "mores" and
>>"duhs" ;).
>>
>>Oh, and ofcourse another good conclution could be that the latest crafty
>>versions are tweaked for humans and does not play as good against comps....
>
>The number 1 entrant in the best crafty sweepstakes:
>>>>1   Crafty 17.14  2500   +85  34.5/56
>
>The number 7 entrant in the best crafty sweepstakes (current version):
>>>>7   Crafty 18.13  2500   +45  31.5/56  847.50
>
>Notice that #7 scored 31.5/56 and number 1 scored 34.5/56.  There is absolutely
>no statistical significance to that result.  A whopping 3 more points in 56
>games.


I could volunteer to run a set of 1000 games between crafty 18.13/17.14/ and
another chess program. I can assure you that it will be the same :)

pavs



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