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Subject: Re: Is the Depth directly proportional to the program's strength? (NO!)

Author: Wylie Garvin

Date: 14:25:48 02/03/02

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On February 03, 2002 at 13:32:42, William H Rogers wrote:

>Here is an item from Chess Skill in Man and Machine
>One of the first programs written for computers and later turned into Deep Blue
>well, I least I think that it lead to Deep Blue.
>The ran a series of 300 games, playing the program against itself with only
>different ply settings to see the difference in playing strength.
>Here are the results:
>
>    Rate  P4    P5    P6    P7    P8    P9
>P4  1235  --    5.0          .5    0     0
>P5  1570  15   --    3.5    3.0   .5     0
>P6  1826  19.5 16.5  ---    4.0  1.5    1.5
>P7  2031  20   17    16     ---  5.0    4.0
>P8  2208  20   19.5  18.5  15.0  ---    5.5
>P9  2328  20   20    18.5  16.0 14.5    ---
>
>As you can see in the lower ply numbers the program gained the most strenght,
>but as the ply level got higher the rating increase became smaller and smaller.
>It would be nice to see some math on a curve to estimate the over all effects.
>Bill

Hi,
   There's a 1997 paper by Schaeffer et. al. that refutes the idea that the
increase in strength is constant per ply at high search depths.  They suggest
that there are diminishing returns for deeper search, and that previous research
didn't reveal it simply because chess programs make lots of evaluation mistakes.

http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/junghanns97diminishing.html

http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/rd/0%2C17407%2C1%2C0.25%2CDownload/http%253A%252F%252Fciteseer.nj.nec.com/compress/0/papers/cs/1444/http%253AzSzzSzwww.cs.ualberta.cazSz%257EandreaszSzPaperszSzdim.ps.gz/junghanns97diminishing.ps

regards,
Wylie



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