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Subject: A very hard test position

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 04:41:13 02/04/02


This position is from the ssdf games(RebelCentury4-Shredder5.32).

[D]8/8/8/3qr2p/4k2P/3p2PK/R7/Q7 w - - 0 79
The last move of Shredder was Ke3-e4

How much time does your program need to see that white wins material after
ke3-e4?
Is ke3-e4 the losing blunder in the game?

The game continued 79.Rf2 Qd7+ 80.Kh2 Rf5 81.Qe1+ Kd4 82.Ra2 Qb5 and Shredder
had to resign at move 121

Here is yace's analysis when I go back from move 82 of black.

Yace believe that 82...Rc5 was better but 82...Rc5 is also losing material based
on yace's analysis:

Rebel Century 4 A1200 - Shredder 5.32 A1200
8/3q4/8/5r1p/3k3P/3p2P1/R6K/4Q3 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Yace 0.99.56:

82...d2 83.Rxd2+ Kc5 84.Rxd7
  +-  (11.19)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
82...Rf6
  ³  (-0.45)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
82...Re5
  ³  (-0.46)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
82...Rd5
  ³  (-0.48)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
82...Rf3
  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
82...Qf7
  ³  (-0.55)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
82...Qf7 83.Rd2
  ³  (-0.36)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
82...Qf7 83.Ra4+ Qc4 84.Rxc4+ Kxc4
  =  (0.04)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
82...Qf7 83.Ra4+ Kc5 84.Qa5+ Kd6 85.Qa6+ Ke7 86.Qxd3
  ±  (0.80)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
82...Rd5 83.Rd2
  ±  (0.79)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
82...Rd5 83.Qb4+ Ke5 84.Qf4+ Ke6 85.Rf2
  =  (-0.05)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
82...Qb5 83.Re2
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
82...Qb5 83.Qa1+ Kd5 84.Ra5
  ³  (-0.35)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
82...Qb5 83.Qd2 Qb3 84.Ra7
  ³  (-0.34)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
82...Qb5 83.Qa1+ Ke3 84.Qe1+ Kd4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  53kN
82...Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Rc2 dxc2 85.Qxc2
  =  (-0.01)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  53kN
82...Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Qf3+ Kc4 85.Rb2 Qg4 86.Qxg4+ hxg4
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  53kN
82...Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Ra3 Qb5 85.Qf3+ Kd4 86.Qf4+ Kd5 87.Qf3+ Kd4 88.Qf4+ Kd5
89.Qf3+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  265kN
82...Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Ra3 Qb5 85.Qf3+ Kd4 86.Qf4+ Kd5 87.Qf3+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  765kN
82...Rc5 83.Qb4+ Kd5 84.Ra4 Rc2+ 85.Kg1 Rc1+ 86.Kg2 Rc2+ 87.Kg1
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8   00:00:13  5170kN
82...Rc5 83.Qg1+ Kd5 84.Qe3 Qb5 85.Rd2 Rc3 86.Qe8 Qxe8 87.Kh3
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 10   00:01:56  44798kN
82...Rc5 83.Qa1+ Kd5 84.Ra4 Ke6 85.Rf4 Rc2+ 86.Kg1 Kd6 87.Rf3 d2 88.Qa6+ Kc7
89.Qa7+ Kc8 90.Rf8+ Qd8 91.Rxd8+ Kxd8
  ²  (0.41)   Depth: 11   00:06:22  145536kN
82...Rc5 83.Qd2 Qf5 84.Ra4+ Kd5 85.Rf4 Qh7 86.Qa2+ Ke5 87.Qb2+ Kd6
  ²  (0.42)   Depth: 11   00:07:52  173198kN
82...Rc5 83.Qd2 Qf5 84.Ra4+ Kd5 85.Rf4 Qg6 86.Qa2+ Kd6 87.Qa6+ Rc6 88.Rd4+ Ke5
89.Qxd3 Rc2+ 90.Kh3 Qe6+ 91.g4 hxg4+ 92.Kg3 Rb2 93.Rxg4
  ±  (0.74)   Depth: 12   00:18:11  389498kN
82...Qb5 83.Ra8 Re5 84.Rd8+ Rd5 85.Qf2+ Kc4 86.Qf4+ Kc3 87.Rc8+ Rc5 88.Qe5+ Kc4
89.Qxh5 Rxc8 90.Qg4+ Kb3 91.Qxc8 d2 92.Kh1
  ±  (0.73)   Depth: 12   00:22:33  479412kN
82...Qb5 83.Ra8 Re5 84.Rd8+ Kc4
  ±  (0.73)   Depth: 12   00:23:03  489731kN
82...Qb5 83.Ra8 Re5 84.Rd8+ Kc4 85.Qc1+ Kb3 86.Qb1+ Kc3 87.Rxd3+ Qxd3 88.Qa1+
Kc2 89.Qxe5 Qf3 90.Qf4 Qe2+ 91.Kh3 Kd1 92.Qd4+ Ke1
  ±  (0.95)   Depth: 13   00:47:19  1023274kN
82...Rc5 83.Qd2 Qd5 84.Ra3 Qf3 85.Qb4+ Kd5 86.Rxd3+ Qxd3 87.Kh3
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 13   01:20:06  1714733kN
82...Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Ra3 Qb5 85.Qf3+ Kd4 86.Qf4+ Kd5 87.Kh3
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 13   02:02:55  2591850kN

I gave yace to go back and here is the analysis

(Blass, Tel-aviv 04.02.2002)
Rebel Century 4 A1200 - Shredder 5.32 A1200
8/3q4/8/4r2p/4k2P/3p2P1/5R1K/Q7 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Yace 0.99.56:

80...d2
  ³  (-0.42)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
80...Qg4
  ³  (-0.48)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
80...Qg4 81.Rf4+ Ke3 82.Rxg4 hxg4
  +-  (2.58)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
80...Qg4 81.Rf4+ Qxf4
  +-  (3.34)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
80...d2 81.Re2+ Kf3 82.Rxd2
  +-  (2.09)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
80...d2 81.Qd1
  =  (-0.18)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
80...Qe7 81.Qc3
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
80...Qe6 81.Qc3
  ³  (-0.30)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
80...Qe6 81.Rf4+ Kd5 82.Qa5+ Kd6 83.Qa6+ Kd7 84.Qxd3+
  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
80...Qe6 81.Rf4+ Kd5 82.Rd4+ Kc5 83.Qc3+ Kb5
  ±  (1.15)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
80...Qe7 81.Qc3
  ±  (1.14)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
80...Qe7 81.Rf4+ Kd5 82.Rd4+ Ke6 83.Qa6+ Kf5
  ±  (1.11)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
80...Rf5 81.Qe1+ Kd4 82.Ra2 Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Ra3 Qb5 85.Qf3+ Kd4 86.Qf4+ Kd5
87.Kh3 Qd7+ 88.Kg2 Qh7 89.Ra4 Rc2+ 90.Kf3 Kc6
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
80...Qb5 81.Qe1+ Kd5 82.Qh1+ Ke6 83.Qc6+ Qxc6 84.Rf4
  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
80...Qb5 81.Qh1+ Kd4 82.Rf4+ Kc5 83.Qf3
  =  (-0.08)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
80...Qb5 81.Rf4+ Kd5 82.Qa8+ Kd6 83.Qd8+ Kc6 84.Rd4
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
80...Qb5 81.Rf4+ Kd5 82.Qa8+ Ke6 83.Qc8+ Kd5 84.Qg8+ Kd6 85.Qd8+ Kc6 86.Qc8+ Kd6
87.Rd4+ Qd5 88.Rxd5+ Rxd5
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  68kN
80...Qb5 81.Rf4+ Kd5 82.Qa8+ Ke6 83.Qc8+ Kd5 84.Qg8+ Kd6 85.Qd8+ Kc6 86.Qc8+ Kd6
87.Rd4+ Rd5 88.Qf8+ Kd7 89.Qf7+ Kd6 90.Qf8+ Kd7 91.Qf7+ Kd6 92.Qf8+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  165kN
80...Qb5 81.Rf4+ Kd5 82.Qa8+ Ke6 83.Qc8+ Kd5 84.Qg8+ Kd6 85.Qd8+ Kc6 86.Qc8+ Kd5
87.Qg8+ Kd6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7   00:00:01  411kN
80...Qb5 81.Rf4+ Kd5 82.Qd4+ Kc6 83.Rf6+ Kb7 84.Qd6 Re2+ 85.Kh3 d2 86.Rf7+ Kc8
87.Rf8+ Re8 88.Rxe8+ Kb7
  ²  (0.40)   Depth: 8   00:00:03  1244kN
80...Qb5 81.Rf4+ Kd5 82.Qd4+ Ke6 83.Rf3 Qd5 84.Qxd3 Qxd3 85.Rxd3 Kf5
  ±  (0.82)   Depth: 8   00:00:05  2095kN
80...Qb5 81.Rf4+ Kd5 82.Qd4+ Ke6 83.Qd8 Re2+ 84.Kh3 Qe5 85.Qe8+ Kd6 86.Rf5 Qxf5+
87.g4
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 9   00:00:15  6213kN
80...Qb5 81.Rf4+ Kd5 82.Qd4+ Ke6 83.Qd8 Re2+ 84.Kh3 Qe5 85.Qxd3 Re3 86.Qg6+ Kd5
87.Qf7+ Kc6 88.Rf6+ Kb5 89.Rf4
  ±  (0.91)   Depth: 10   00:00:49  19907kN
80...Rf5 81.Qe1+ Kd4 82.Ra2 Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Ra3 Qb5 85.Qf3+ Kd4 86.Qf4+ Kd5
87.Kh3 Qd7+ 88.Kg2 Qh7 89.Ra4 Rc2+ 90.Kf3 Kc6
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 10   00:00:49  19907kN
80...Rf5 81.Qe1+ Kd4 82.Ra2 Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Ra3 Qb5 85.Qf3+ Kd4 86.Qf4+ Kd5
87.Kh3 Qd7+ 88.Kg2 Qh7 89.Ra4 Rc2+ 90.Kf3 Kc6
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 11   00:01:02  25135kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 04.02.2002)
Rebel Century 4 A1200 - Shredder 5.32 A1200
8/8/8/3qr2p/4k2P/3p2PK/5R2/Q7 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Yace 0.99.56:

79...d2
  ³  (-0.54)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
79...d2 80.Qd1
  ³  (-0.30)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
79...Rf5 80.Qa4+ Ke3
  ³  (-0.31)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
79...Rf5 80.Qa4+ Ke5
  ³  (-0.35)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
79...Qe6+ 80.Rf5
  ³  (-0.40)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
79...Qe6+ 80.Kh2 Kd5
  ³  (-0.66)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
79...Qe6+ 80.Kh2 Kd5 81.Qc3
  ³  (-0.48)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
79...Qe6+ 80.Kh2 Kd5 81.Qa5+ Kc4 82.Rf4+ Kb3 83.Qd2
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
79...Rf5 80.Rxf5 Qxf5+ 81.g4 hxg4+ 82.Kh2
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
79...Rf5 80.Qe1+ Kd4 81.Qa1+ Kc4 82.Qc1+ Kb5 83.Rb2+ Ka5
  =  (-0.18)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
79...Rf5 80.Qe1+ Kd4 81.Qb4+ Ke5 82.Qb8+ Kf6 83.Qf8+ Kg6 84.Qe8+ Kh7 85.Rd2
  =  (-0.20)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  86kN
79...Rf5 80.Qe1+ Kd4 81.Qb4+ Ke5 82.Qe7+ Qe6 83.Qc5+ Kf6 84.Qc3+ Ke7 85.Qc7+ Ke8
86.Rd2
  ³  (-0.32)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  241kN
79...Rf5 80.Qe1+ Kd4 81.Rb2 Qf3 82.Qb4+ Kd5 83.Qb7+ Kd4 84.Qb4+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  829kN
79...Rf5 80.Qe1+ Kd4 81.Rb2 Qf3 82.Qb4+ Kd5 83.Qb7+ Kd4 84.Qb6+ Rc5 85.Rb4+ Kd5
86.Qd8+ Ke6 87.Rb6+ Rc6 88.Qe8+ Kf5 89.Qxc6 Ke5
  ²  (0.40)   Depth: 11   00:01:23  32545kN
79...Rf5 80.Qe1+ Kd4 81.Rb2 Qf3 82.Qb4+ Kd5 83.Qb7+ Kd4 84.Qb6+ Kd5 85.Rb5+ Ke4
86.Qe6+ Kd4 87.Rb4+ Kc3 88.Rf4 Rxf4
  ²  (0.40)   Depth: 11   00:02:19  54531kN
79...Rf5 80.Qe1+ Kd4 81.Rb2 Qf3 82.Qb4+ Kd5 83.Qb7+ Kd4 84.Rb4+ Kc3 85.Rb3+ Kc4
86.Qb4+ Kd5 87.Qa5+ Kd4 88.Qc3+ Ke4 89.Rb4+ Ke3 90.Qc1+ d2 91.Rb3+ Ke2 92.Qc4+
Ke1 93.Rxf3 Rxf3
  ±  (0.80)   Depth: 12   00:06:21  149740kN
79...Rf5 80.Qe1+ Kd4 81.Rb2 Qf3 82.Qb4+ Kd5 83.Qb5+ Kd4 84.Rb4+ Ke3 85.Qb6+ Ke2
86.Rb2+ d2 87.Qe6+ Kf1 88.Rxd2 Rc5 89.Qa6+
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 12   00:10:13  236574kN
79...Qd7+ 80.Kh2 Rf5 81.Qe1+ Kd4 82.Ra2 Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Ra3 Qb5 85.Qf3+ Kd4
86.Qf4+ Kd5 87.Kh3 Qd7+ 88.Kg2 Qh7 89.Ra4
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 12   00:14:32  332311kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 04.02.2002)
Rebel Century 4 A1200 - Shredder 5.32 A1200
8/8/8/3qr2p/4k2P/3p2PK/R7/Q7 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Yace 0.99.56:

79.Qxe5+ Qxe5
  -+  (-5.70)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
79.Qb2
  ³  (-0.59)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
79.Qb2
  ³  (-0.59)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
79.Rd2
  ³  (-0.48)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
79.Rf2 Qd7+ 80.Kh2 Rf5 81.Qe1+ Kd4 82.Ra2 Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Ra3 Qb5 85.Qf3+ Kd4
86.Qf4+ Kd5 87.Kh3 Qd7+ 88.Kg2 Qh7 89.Ra4
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
79.Rf2 Qd7+ 80.Kh2 Rf5 81.Qe1+ Kd4 82.Ra2 Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Ra3 Qb5 85.Qf3+ Kd4
86.Qf4+ Kd5 87.Kh3 Qd7+ 88.Kg2 Qh7 89.Ra4
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
79.Rf2 Qd7+ 80.Kh2 Rf5 81.Qe1+ Kd4 82.Ra2 Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Ra3 Qb5 85.Qf3+ Kd4
86.Qf4+ Kd5 87.Kh3 Qd7+ 88.Kg2 Qh7 89.Ra4
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
79.Rf2 Qd7+ 80.Kh2 Rf5 81.Qe1+ Kd4 82.Ra2 Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Ra3 Qb5 85.Qf3+ Kd4
86.Qf4+ Kd5 87.Kh3 Qd7+ 88.Kg2 Qh7 89.Ra4
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
79.Rf2 Qd7+ 80.Kh2 Rf5 81.Qe1+ Kd4 82.Ra2 Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Ra3 Qb5 85.Qf3+ Kd4
86.Qf4+ Kd5 87.Kh3 Qd7+ 88.Kg2 Qh7 89.Ra4
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  14kN
79.Rf2 Qd7+ 80.Kh2 Rf5 81.Qe1+ Kd4 82.Ra2 Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Ra3 Qb5 85.Qf3+ Kd4
86.Qf4+ Kd5 87.Kh3 Qd7+ 88.Kg2 Qh7 89.Ra4
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  39kN
79.Rf2 Qd7+ 80.Kh2 Rf5 81.Qe1+ Kd4 82.Ra2 Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Ra3 Qb5 85.Qf3+ Kd4
86.Qf4+ Kd5 87.Kh3 Qd7+ 88.Kg2 Qh7 89.Ra4
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  147kN
79.Rf2 Qd7+ 80.Kh2 Rf5 81.Qe1+ Kd4 82.Ra2 Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Ra3 Qb5 85.Qf3+ Kd4
86.Qf4+ Kd5 87.Kh3 Qd7+ 88.Kg2 Qh7 89.Ra4
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  791kN
79.Rf2 Qd7+ 80.Kh2 Rf5 81.Qe1+ Kd4 82.Ra2 Rc5 83.Qf2+ Kd5 84.Ra3 Qb5 85.Qf3+ Kd4
86.Qf4+ Kd5 87.Kh3 Qd7+ 88.Kg2 Qh7 89.Ra4
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 9   00:00:11  4317kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 04.02.2002)



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