Author: Marc van Hal
Date: 03:28:03 02/05/02
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On February 05, 2002 at 06:23:05, Marc van Hal wrote: >On February 05, 2002 at 01:35:35, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On February 04, 2002 at 18:56:51, Marc van Hal wrote: >> >>>On February 04, 2002 at 17:13:35, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On February 04, 2002 at 16:37:53, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 04, 2002 at 16:19:04, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On February 04, 2002 at 16:04:52, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On February 04, 2002 at 15:37:38, David Rasmussen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On February 04, 2002 at 11:40:07, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On February 04, 2002 at 10:38:04, David Rasmussen wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the link. Great article! I too am a weak chess player, and I have >>>>>>>>>>also recently had an insight about focusing on tactics instead of positional >>>>>>>>>>knowledge. I have 40 chess books or so, and of course some of them are about >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I found this kind of things too dogmatic. >>>>>>>>>The most important part of learning is interest and motivation. If you despise >>>>>>>>>going through thousands of tactical exercises with nothing in between for >>>>>>>>>a year most probably your are going to quit after two weeks. This is like >>>>>>>>>the magic diets where you have to juggle your day around the diet. >>>>>>>>>As always, improvement is an individual effort and depends very much on the >>>>>>>>>individual. That's where the importance of the teacher comes, NOT TO EXPLAIN >>>>>>>>>WHY Ba4 is better than Bxc6 in the Ruy Lopez. >>>>>>>>>Tactics will be a key for a player, but might not be for another. There >>>>>>>>>hundreds of details that are important and some of them are not even related >>>>>>>>>to chess (like attention etc.). In general, tactics are very important >>>>>>>>>particularly at that level, but it is not wise to separate it from everything >>>>>>>>>else. >>>>>>>>>Tactical exercises are good, but it is never good to be 100% of the training. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Ah! do not forget to play real OTB chess, but not too much. 60-80 slow paced >>>>>>>>>(anything that last more than 3 hours) games a year, select some and analyze >>>>>>>>>them to death WITHOUT A COMPUTER, show it to a stronger player or a friend. >>>>>>>>>Share analysis... Then, use your computer. Keep a notebook with everything... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>>>>Miguel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I know what you mean, and I generally agree. I too find the article dogmatic, >>>>>>>>but that doesn't matter, IMO. Sometimes that's needed to fight another (older) >>>>>>>>dogma. The articles is even wrong at some points: It is not necesarily better to >>>>>>>>be able to look 5 moves with "no positional knowledge (not even material?)", >>>>>>>>than to look 4 moves with Grandmaster level positional knowledge. In chess >>>>>>>>programming terms: There are a lot of evaluation terms that makes up for search >>>>>>>>depth: If you have a passed pawn on the 6th rank supported by your king in an >>>>>>>>endgame, with positional knowledge, you will know with a 0-ply search that this >>>>>>>>is strong, whereas it takes a 3-ply search with "no knowledge" to see this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Besides, a GM can play a full game without calculating at all (say just 3-4 >>>>>>>plies) and outplay a 1900 player that spend 2 hours for the game. >>>>>>>That's what happen in simuls. >>>>>> >>>>>>I think that you are wrong to assume that the GM does not calculate at all. >>>>>>I believe that few seconds of GM's calculation is simply often better than few >>>>>>minutes of 1900's player calculation. >>>>> >>>>>Players in simuls against much weaker players do not calculate a damn thing. >>>>>They just play the first move that pop into their heads. Once in a while they >>>>>stop to calculate to finish up a game but that is the minority of the cases. >>>>> >>>>>You are less likely to blunder when your pieces are in the right spot and you >>>>>follow plans that you did hundreds of times before. Not to mention if you >>>>>managed to trade queens and went into an endgame. You can go into cruise control >>>>>against a lesser player. >>>>> >>>>>Regards, >>>>>Miguel >>>> >>>> >>>>I can give a simple example >>>> >>>>I know about the idea of the following simple mate: >>>>Qc4+ Kg8-h8 Ne5-f7+ Kh8-g8 Nf7-h6+ Kg8-h8 Qc4-g8+ Rxg8 Nf7# >>>> >>>>Suppose that I play a simultan game against weak players and my opponent blunder >>>>and give me the opportunity to use that idea. >>>> >>>>In this case I win the game. >>>>Did I win thanks to tactics? >>>>yes. >>>> >>>>Did I play the first move that I think about? >>>>Yes >>>> >>>>Playing the first move that you think about does not mean that you cannot >>>>outsearch the opponent. >>>> >>>>I suspect that in part of the games the GM simply outsearch the opponent inspite >>>>of the fact that it is a simultan game. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>Actualy this is precisely what a diagramplayer thinks >>>You say did I play the first moves I was thinking of yes >>>Not looking at where Black's pieces where standing. >>>I can give you a precise position where Qc4+ does not win and Qd5+ does win. >>>Near the fact that my pawn on b5 can capture your queen hehe >> >>It is not going to happen to good players. >> >>They are usually careful not to do stupid blunders and putting a piece at a >>place that it can be captured not as part of a combinatopn is not going to >>happen if they are good on tactics and tactics is not only combinations. >> >>Uri > >The blunder I have givven by the difernce of the moves Qc4+ or Qd5+ >Is quite comon. >In that position Black threatens to give mate in 1! >a Black rook is on f8 and black pawn on c5. nopawn! on the d-file a Black pawn >on g7 a pawn on h7 and Black the king on g8 >the pawn on c5 stops the check on the 8th rank wich is necasery for White to >give mate after rook takes f7. >This is important to know to recognize the patern corectly. > >Marc > >Regards Marc >After rook takes f7. Hehe I am a litle bit gulty of making the same mistake as you did ofcourse there is only 1 black rook on the 8th rank ,the one on f8.
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