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Subject: Re: you are right

Author: Odd Gunnar Malin

Date: 01:27:13 02/06/02

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On February 06, 2002 at 03:29:40, irawan wrote:

>On February 06, 2002 at 01:37:50, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:
>
>>On February 05, 2002 at 20:13:49, irawan wrote:
>>
>>>On February 05, 2002 at 05:18:03, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 05, 2002 at 05:06:15, irawan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>What is your engine choice on this position ?
>>>>>I got it from Art of Attack in Chess by Vukovic.
>>>>>
>>>>>[D] r1bq1rk1/pp1n1ppp/1bp1p3/8/3P1B2/2PB1N2/PP3PPP/R2QR1K1 w - -
>>>>>
>>>>>How many depth needed in order to find Bxh7 ?
>>>>>
>>>>>irawan
>>>>
>>>>Your position is wrong
>>>>
>>>>r1bqrk1 means that there are only 7 squares in one line.
>>>
>>>Yes Uri, it should be r1bq1rk1. So the rook is placed on f8.
>>>Sorry for this typo.
>>>I found it is difficult for chess program to sac his bishop on h7.
>>>
>>
>>Is it the best move then? It would most probably lead to a positive score but
>>isn't Ng5 or something give at least equal score?
>
>I don't know the _exact_ answer here. Vukovic explained that some conditions
>_must be fulfilled_ before doing this kind sac.
>They are including :
>* white must have a queen
>* the light-squared bishop must be able reach h7, it is not essential that it
>should put Black in check or take a pawn in so doing.
>* the knight should be within easy and safe reach of square g5, and the queen
>within reach of h5
>* the Black knight should not be able to reach f6 and that neither his queen or
>bishop sholud be able to occupy the h7-b1 diagonal unharmed.

Aha. 4...e5 in your line below follow by 5...Bf5.

I should not pretend as I understand this. I struggle with CTArt3 a couple of
hours a week so it's just fun. I think I must let Uri come with his long time
comp-analysis.

Nice combination anyway, much to analyze on Blacks's 4'th and 5'th move.

Odd Gunnar

>Unfortunately these rule are easier to say than to practice. As usual, there are
>many exception.
>From my point of view, Ng5 adds some pressure on Black king side.
>Nothing sure from Ng5. However White position is good already.
>
>>For the classical Bxh7 there is missing the thematic pawn on e5 allow Nf6 as a
>>defence move.
>
>No, once the knight _safely_ come to f6 then the attack fail.
>In my post, the missing e5 is fully compensated by the dark-squared bishop.
>Below is Vukovic analysis :
>1.Bx7+ Kxh7 2.Ng5+ Kg8 3.Qh5 Nf6 4.Qh4 Re8 5.Be5 Qe7 6.Re3 Bd8 7.Rh3 +-.
>As shown above, on 5-th move White uses his bishop in order to drive the
>_powerful_ knight on f6 out.
>
>
>>
>>Odd Gunnar



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