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Subject: Re: question for all chess programmers

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:56:35 02/06/02

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On February 06, 2002 at 16:11:15, athlon2000 wrote:

>On February 06, 2002 at 15:56:22, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On February 06, 2002 at 14:47:45, athlon2000 wrote:
>>
>>>On February 06, 2002 at 11:15:49, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 06, 2002 at 10:09:58, athlon2000 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Is shredders triple brain option any good to use against single chess program
>>>>>users?
>>>>
>>>>I wouldn't think it is particularly good to use it _anywhere_.  Would you
>>>>prefer to have one engine thinking for X units of time, or three engines
>>>>thinking for X/3 units of time and then choose what appears to be best?
>>>>
>>>>I know _my_ answer...
>>>
>>>yes but wouldn't that mean three times the opening books and 3 different styles
>>>that will cover each others weakness? so in essence wouldn't it be = to one
>>>chess program...
>>
>>
>>Think about the _time_.  If your branching factor is 3.0, then would you
>>prefer to have one program's analysis after a 12 ply search, or three programs'
>>analysis after 11 ply searches?
>>
>>How many times have you seen positions where one more ply was critical?
>>
>>How would you compare (say) a X ply search by (say) Fritz, to an X-1 ply
>>search by Hiarcs, Shredder and Junior?  That is a difficult question and
>>I am pretty sure I would rather have the X ply search against another
>>computer.  Against humans?  Perhaps not.  But then I would also want a
>>_strong_ operator to choose between the three moves, not a computer program.
>
>i understand what u r saying but in this fact i will have to respond with the
>fact that a friend of mine tested this option with three relatively moderate
>strength programs and managed to beat and draw most other programs without many
>losses...such as fritz junior chesstiger so on so forth.


Not a fair test.  Your _friend_ was a fourth participant.  If the _program_ has
to choose between the three moves suggested by the three engines, then things
change significantly in favor of the single-engine program, IMHO.



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