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Subject: Re: What Happened to the Hyatt -Schroder Nodes per Second Challege?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:44:10 02/07/02

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On February 07, 2002 at 02:47:39, Peter Kappler wrote:

>On February 06, 2002 at 19:48:20, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>
>>As I recall visiting the Rebel Website some time ago that there was a bet
>>between Hyatt and Ed Schroder on the effect of speed on chess Programs .And
>>that a 100 to 1 Match was arranged between Crafty and Rebel With Crafty given
>>100 times more time then Rebel.One game posted on the site from the match have
>>Rebel winning under such Handicapp.My qestion is was any Scientific results
>>obtained from this(uncompleted) Match.The Match came as a result of a debate
>>Between Hyatt and Ed about the Supposed Elo difference between the best PC
>>programs (of that time)and IBM's DeepBlue.
>
>Wow, that was 5 years ago.  Feels like a lifetime...
>
>The short answer is that Ed quit the match after one game (a win for Rebel).
>Apparently he felt he had proven his point.
>
>If you want all the gory details, visit http://groups.google.com, type "NPS
>challenge", and click the 2nd result.
>
>Be warned, it's a 336-article thread.  Wonder if that's a RGCC record?
>
>-Peter


Actually he didn't quit because he thought he had proven the point.  He quit
because we had massive problems with the "POS" auto-232 interface.  It was
(and still is) very sensitive to timing issues and would frequently hang up
and time out.  He wanted to run a traditional match to understand the difference
between Crafty and Rebel, in terms of strength on equal hardware at normal time
controls, but the match could not be completed due to the various auto232 hangs.

We tried a _bunch_ of crap to fix it (you can still find some of it in crafty,
as in the Delay() function and so forth).  But we ultimately said "to hell with
it..."

:)

Bob



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