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Subject: Re: Rebel9 found Re1xe6 in 1 second!!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:11:29 06/24/98

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On June 24, 1998 at 11:46:06, Eran wrote:

>On June 24, 1998 at 09:51:24, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 24, 1998 at 02:00:31, Eran wrote:
>>
>>>On June 24, 1998 at 01:12:06, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>On June 24, 1998 at 00:49:24, Eran wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Rebel9 found Re1xe6 in 1 second!!
>>>>
>>>>No ill will intended toward anyone, but doesn't Rxe6 *lose*?
>>>>
>>>>bruce
>>>
>>>
>>>This is not about whether or not the move Rxe6 loses. The only thing is that I
>>>tried to show to all of you that Rebel9 with different settings in the Option
>>>menu clearly calculated faster with that specific chess position as mentioned
>>>than anti-grandmaster chess software. Ed Schroder and anybody else may not know
>>>that. So I just tried to show that to them.
>>>
>>>Now, as to the question of whehter or not the move Rxe6 loses, I cannot tell
>>>clearly. It depends on who the opponent is and what his or her playing style is.
>>>
>>>Eran
>>
>>
>>however, what's the point in finding settings in a program that suddenly
>>makes it start playing *losing* moves?  That is usually *easy* to do.  THe
>>hard part is to make it play *winning* moves...  :)
>
>Okay, but if the move Bh6 is better than Rxe6, then I do not know why Rebel
>won't play Bh6 after one or two minutes of calculation.
>
>I think Ed Schroder believes that the move Rxe6 is a better anti-grandmaster
>move for instance in hope to make Black becoming tangled. However, it sounds to
>me that the move Rxe6 is subject to controversy; it looks like "chicken-egg
>cycle." It seems too difficult to know for sure whether or not Rxe6 is a good
>anti-grandmaster move right now.
>
>Anyway, the anti-grandmaster features in Rebel10 are just an experiment. I hope
>the anti-grandmaster chess software which Ed created would beat Vishy Anand in
>July. I think that if the anti-grandmaster features are good, Ed would retain
>them in Rebel10. Otherwise they would be thrown away. Correct me if I am wrong.
>
>Eran


I don't think there is any controversy here at all.  Rxe6 loses.  It will
lose against a computer.  It will lose against a GM.  It will lose against an
IM.  Who cares if it wins against masters.  We can already do that without
tossing material out the window... and self-attacking...




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