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Subject: Re: Continue the experiment........

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 23:17:21 02/07/02

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On February 08, 2002 at 00:51:46, Slater Wold wrote:

>On February 07, 2002 at 23:40:55, pavel wrote:
>
>>On February 07, 2002 at 18:04:59, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On February 07, 2002 at 15:54:47, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have always been intrigued by the Crafty vs Rebel NPS challenge.  Always
>>>>thought it was a shame that we never got to see an end result.
>>>>
>>>>With that said.........
>>>>
>>>>I would like to continue the experiment.  Crafty of today vs any top commercial
>>>>program out there.
>>>>
>>>>What/Who I am looking for:
>>>>
>>>>1.) Someone who can play at LEAST 25 of these games.  I will take Crafty, so I
>>>>will have the one with the tied up machine.  You will only be required to
>>>>analyze a move for 3:30 minutes, every 8 hours or so.  And e-mail the move, and
>>>>the eval to me.
>>>>
>>>>2.) Someone with up-to-date hardware and software.  1.5Ghz+ only.  NEW software
>>>>only.  Fritz 7, Junior 7, Gandalf 5.0, Rebel 4, CT 14.0, GT 2.0, etc.  I don't
>>>>care if it's SMP.  And I don't care which program.
>>>>
>>>>Match conditions:
>>>>
>>>>1.) New software gets 3:30 minutes a move.  No PB.  TB's are fine.
>>>>2.) DBII hit, on average, 42B nodes in 3:30 minutes.  The latest version of
>>>>Crafty on my computer (Dual AMD 1.6GHz) gets 1.53M nodes a second average
>>>>(average of 30 positions for 3:30 minutes).  Therefore, Crafty will get 7.5
>>>>hours a move.  (Approx. to the 42B node average.)  Neither computer will be able
>>>>to utilize pondering.
>>>>
>>>>If you're interested, e-mail me.  If you have any ideas, e-mail me or respond
>>>>here.
>>>>
>>>>Bob, if you could change Crafty to use 64 bit intergers, that would be nice.
>>>>Cause 7.5 hours is going to roll that node counter over a few thousand times.
>>>>;)
>>>>
>>>>Ed and Bob, I'd love to hear your feedback.  :)
>>>
>>>
>>>Slater, that's all fine and exciting. It allows Bob to have his ultimate revenge
>>>after 5 years. So I applaude to the idea, I have only no time to maintain a
>>>daily updated page. So if you find somebody who is willing to do the HTML job I
>>>will provide you with a copy of Rebel Century 4.
>>>
>>>-> The Crafty-Rebel NPS Re-match
>>>
>>>Yes, I like definitely it.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>
>>
>>I personally don't understand how this test is interesting and point is it
>>trying to prove?
>>
>>pavs
>
>It is a test that was tried about 5 years ago.
>
>http://www.rebel.nl/match.htm
>
>I am just interested in what the final result would be.

The statement was true for 1997. If you want to proof the original NPS challenge
you will need to take the programs of 1997.

Ed



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