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Subject: mips, mflops & AMD.

Author: Aaron Gordon

Date: 02:04:04 02/08/02

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If I am correct Dan you cannot directly compare a computers speed with mips vs
mflops as MIPS (I believe) have to do with the integer unit. From what I've
seen/heard chess programs are mainly integer related so all the floating point
operations in the world won't make much of a difference. A 2GHz AthlonXP would
be about 5500 MIPS and 2755Mflops (8000Mflops theoretical with 3DNow!) according
to the Sisoft Sandra (http://www.sisoftware.demon.co.uk/sandra) CPU benchmark.
This is assuming my scores at 1.81Ghz scale linearly (which they do). My scores
were 4977 Mips and 2473Mflops (straight FPU, non-3dnow).

On February 06, 2002 at 19:51:28, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On February 06, 2002 at 19:32:39, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>
>>On February 06, 2002 at 19:28:21, Frank Nelson wrote:
>>
>>>On February 06, 2002 at 17:48:52, walter irvin wrote:
>>>
>>>>i wonder if a 2ghz pc with the latest crafty beat the cray blitz that won the
>>>>world champoinship ??????????
>>>>
>>>>my vote is with crafty
>>>
>>>You are forgetting that cray blitz was runned on a supercomputer at many
>>>m.i.p.s. than that which a home pc can acheive. So my bets are with cray blitz!
>>Actually your last Statementis not True.A 2 gig Home PC has more m.i.p.s then
>>the old Supercomputers which ran Cray Blitz.
>
>Cray Blitz ran on a C94, which was a 1000 MIP machine.  Not too shabby, even by
>todays standards.
>A 2GHz AMD will be a little over 2000 MFlops (which is what the MIPS above are
>measuring).
>So it seems that the PC should be twice as fast.
>
>But when you look at the memory speed for things like the hash table the Cray is
>enormously faster.  And the disk access for tablebase files would benefit
>incredibly.  However, the old Cray Blitz did not use tablebase files, so that is
>neither here nor there.  Other plus factors for the Cray include a vector unit
>that can do lots of operations in parallel.
>
>In any case, it would be a fair fight, and I'm not sure which program would win.
>
>I suspect the increased sophistication of the PC program would win out, because
>so much more development and debugging has been done on that platform.
>
>My extrapolation (read:guess) is that the old cray would search wider and the
>new crafty would search deeper.  So if the new crafty stayed out of trouble it
>would probably have the better of it.  But if hidden dangers were overlooked it
>would be a benefit for the cray.
>
>It would be nice if we could find some cray time and try it.
>;-)



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