Author: robert flesher
Date: 06:49:46 02/08/02
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On February 07, 2002 at 23:44:43, Dann Corbit wrote:
>On February 07, 2002 at 18:19:53, K. Burcham wrote:
>
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>>Not sure if b4 is best move. but you can see these programs say at these depths
>>it is strong move. I did not play out any lines to see if this is best move.
>>what do you think Uri?
>
>I have one game in my database with that position (2 super GM's OTB). Flohr
>played b4 and won.
>
>[Event "Amsterdam m"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "1932.??.??"]
>[Round "1"]
>[White "Flohr, Salomon M"]
>[Black "Euwe, Max"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "D36v"]
>[Variation "QGD: Exchange, Main Line, 9.Nf3 Re8 10.O-O Nf8"]
>
>1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. Bg5 Nbd7 6. cxd5 exd5 7. e3 Be7
>8. Bd3 O-O 9. Qc2 Re8 10. O-O Nf8 11. Ne5 Ng4 12. Bxe7 Qxe7 13. Nxg4 Bxg4
>14. Rfe1 Rad8 15. Ne2 Rd6 16. Ng3 Rh6 17. Bf5 Qg5 18. Bxg4 Qxg4 19. h3 Qd7
>{here we are, at the diagram. Flohr played b4 and won.}
>20. b4 Ne6 21. Rab1 Nc7 22. a4 a6 23. Nf1 Re7 24. Nh2 Rhe6 25. Nf3 f6 26.
>Nd2 Re8 27. Nb3 R6e7 28. Nc5 Qc8 29. Rec1 Rd8 30. Nd3 Qb8 31. Nf4 Ne6 32.
>Nxe6 Rxe6 33. b5 axb5 34. axb5 cxb5 35. Rxb5 b6 36. Qb3 Qd6 37. Rb1 Rd7 38.
>Rxb6 Qxb6 39. Qxb6 Rxb6 40. Rxb6 Kf7 41. Kh2 Ke7 42. Kg3 Ra7 43. Kf4 g6 44.
>g4 Ra2 45. Rb7+ Ke6 46. Kg3 1-0
>
>
>
>> [D] 4rnk1/pp1q1ppp/2p4r/3p4/3P4/4P1NP/PPQ2PP1/R3R1K1 w - - 0 1
>>
>>Deep Fritz: 2x1533 512 hash
>>1.Rac1 Ne6 2.b4 a6 3.a3 Nc7 4.Qf5 Rhe6 5.Qg4 Qd8 6.Nf5 Qf6
>> = (0.09) Depth: 14/33 00:00:16 21444kN
>>1.Rac1 Ne6 2.b4 Rg6 3.Qf5 Rg5 4.Qd3 Rg6 5.Red1 Qd6 6.Nf5 Qxb4
>> = (0.06) Depth: 15/33 00:00:41 53906kN
>>1.Rac1 Ne6 2.b4 Rg6 3.Qf5 Rg5 4.Qf3 Rg6 5.a4 Rf6 6.Qd1 Ng5
>> = (0.06) Depth: 16/35 00:02:11 173644kN
>>1.b4!
>> = (0.09) Depth: 16/38 00:03:21 269994kN
>>1.b4 Ne6 2.a4 Rg6 3.b5 Ng5 4.Qd1 Ne4 5.Nxe4 dxe4 6.Qh5 Rc8
>> = (0.09) Depth: 17/38 00:05:35 460711kN
>>1.b4 Ne6 2.Rab1 Rg6 3.Qd3 Ng5 4.b5 b6 5.bxc6 Rxc6 6.Rec1 Ne4
>> = (0.06) Depth: 18/40 00:13:29 1132879kN
>>1.b4 Ne6 2.a4 Rg6 3.Qf5 Rg5 4.Qf3 Rg6 5.Qh5 Ng5 6.b5 Qe6
>> = (0.06) Depth: 19/42 00:32:56 2805313kN
>>1.b4 Ne6 2.a4 Rg6 3.Qf5 Rf6 4.Qh5 Rh6 5.Qg4 Rg6
>> = (0.06) Depth: 20/46 01:26:41 7485070kN
>>
>>
>>Fritz 7: 2x1533 512 hash
>>1.Rac1 Qe6 2.b4 g6 3.Qc5 Ra8 4.e4 dxe4 5.Nxe4 Qxa2
>> = (0.22) Depth: 9/19 00:00:00 258kN
>>1.Rac1 Rg6 2.a3 Qd6 3.Qc5 Qxc5 4.dxc5 Nd7 5.b4 Kf8 6.Rcd1
>> = (0.16) Depth: 10/25 00:00:00 746kN
>>1.Rac1 Ne6 2.Qf5 Qe7 3.a3 Qh4 4.b4 Rf6 5.Qh5 Qxh5 6.Nxh5
>> = (0.16) Depth: 11/26 00:00:02 2017kN
>>1.Rac1 Ne6 2.Qf5 Qe7 3.a3 Rf6 4.Qc2 Ng5 5.Qc5 Qxc5 6.Rxc5 Ne4 7.Nxe4 dxe4
>> = (0.09) Depth: 12/26 00:00:05 4058kN
>>1.Rac1 Ne6 2.b4 Ng5 3.Qf5 Qxf5 4.Nxf5 Rf6 5.Ng3 Kf8 6.b5 Ne4 7.Nxe4 dxe4 8.bxc6
>> = (0.09) Depth: 13/28 00:00:13 11018kN
>>1.a4!
>> = (0.13) Depth: 13/28 00:00:20 16582kN
>>1.a4! Ne6 2.a5 Ng5 3.Qf5 Qxf5 4.Nxf5 Rg6 5.Ng3 h5 6.Kf1 Ne4 7.Nxe4 dxe4 8.a6
>> = (0.16) Depth: 13/28 00:00:22 18273kN
>>1.a4 Ne6 2.a5 Ng5 3.Qf5 Qxf5 4.Nxf5 Rg6 5.Ng3 Ne4 6.Nxe4 dxe4 7.a6 b6 8.Rec1
>> = (0.16) Depth: 14/30 00:00:27 22815kN
>>1.a4 Ne6 2.a5 Ng5 3.a6 b6 4.Qf5 Qxf5 5.Nxf5 Rhe6 6.Ng3 g6 7.Rac1 f5
>> = (0.16) Depth: 15/31 00:00:39 32822kN
>>1.a4 Ne6 2.a5 Ng5 3.a6 b6 4.Qf5 Qxf5 5.Nxf5 Rhe6 6.Ng3 g6 7.Rac1 f5 8.Kf1
>> = (0.16) Depth: 16/37 00:01:52 92923kN
>>1.a4 Ne6 2.a5 Ng5 3.a6 b6 4.Qf5 Qxf5 5.Nxf5 Rg6 6.Ng3 h5 7.Kf1 h4 8.Nf5
>> = (0.13) Depth: 17/39 00:03:34 178950kN
>>1.a4 Ne6 2.b4 Ng5 3.Rec1 Ne4 4.Nxe4 dxe4 5.Qc5 Rg6 6.Kh1 a6 7.Rc2
>> = (0.03) Depth: 18/41 00:13:20 657087kN
>>1.a4 Ne6 2.b4 Ng5 3.Rec1 Ne4 4.Nxe4 dxe4 5.Qc5 b6 6.Qc4 Qf5 7.Rc2 Rg6
>> = (0.00) Depth: 19/44 00:37:40 1868537kN
>>1.Rac1!
>> = (0.03) Depth: 19/44 00:39:35 1976349kN
>>1.b4!
>> = (0.06) Depth: 19/44 00:54:19 2742404kN
>>
>>
>>Deep Shredder 6 2x1533mhz 512 hash
>> 9.01 0:00 -0.40 1.Qc5 a6 2.Rab1 Rhe6 3.Qc2 Ng6 4.Ne2 (337.417) 502.1
>> 9.22 0:01 -0.39++ 1.b4 Rhe6 2.b5 cxb5 3.Qf5 h6 4.Ne2 (740.746) 532.5
>> 9.22 0:01 -0.35 1.b4 Rhe6 2.b5 cxb5 3.Qf5 Rc6 4.Qxd7 Nxd7 5.Rab1 (775.205)
>>533.5
>> 10.01 0:01 -0.31 1.b4 Rhe6 2.Rab1 a6 3.a3 Ng6 4.Nf5 Nf4 5.Qc5 (985.899)
>>539.3
>> 11.01 0:02 -0.37 1.b4 Rhe6 2.b5 cxb5 3.Qf5 Rc6 4.Rab1 a6 5.a3 f6 (1.560.345)
>>548.6
>> 12.01 0:06 -0.33 1.b4 Rhe6 2.Rab1 a6 3.a3 Qc7 4.Qf5 Ng6 5.Rec1 Qd6 6.Rd1 f6
>>(3.489.896) 563.9
>> 13.01 0:10 -0.34 1.b4 Rhe6 2.Rab1 a6 3.Nf5 Ng6 4.a4 Ne7 5.b5 Nxf5 6.Qxf5
>>cxb5 7.axb5 axb5 8.Rec1 (5.790.161) 566.6
>> 14.01 0:37 -0.22 1.b4 Rhe6 2.Rab1 Ng6 3.Rec1 a6 4.a4 f6 5.b5 axb5 6.axb5
>>cxb5 7.Qc7 (20.734.174) 546.3
>> 15.01 2:59 -0.24 1.b4 Ne6 2.a4 Nc7 3.Rac1 a6 4.Qf5 Qe7 5.Rb1 Rg6 6.Qf4 Rg5
>>7.e4 dxe4 (95.830.656) 533.8
>> 16.01 6:05 -0.17 1.b4 Ne6 2.a4 Nc7 3.Qc5 a6 4.Qa7 Qc8 5.Rab1 Rhe6 6.Nf5 Rf6
>>7.Ng3 (194.741.327) 533.3
>> 17.01 8:53 -0.17 1.b4 Ne6 2.a4 Nc7 3.Qc5 a6 4.Qa7 Qc8 5.Rab1 Rhe6 6.Nf5 Rf6
>>7.Ng3 (286.697.645) 537.6
>> 18.01 16:59 -0.17 1.b4 Ne6 2.a4 Nc7 3.Qc5 a6 4.Qa7 Qc8 5.Rab1 Rhe6 6.Nf5 Rf6
>>7.Ng3 Rg6 (557.990.526) 547.1
>>
>>Deep Junior 7: 2x1533 mhz 512 hash
>>1.b4 Rf6 2.e4 Ne6 3.e5 Rf4 4.Ne2 Re4
>> = (0.23) Depth: 12 00:00:00 623kN
>>1.b4 Rg6 2.a4 h6 3.e4 dxe4 4.Rxe4 Ne6 5.Nf5
>> = (0.17) Depth: 15 00:00:01 2812kN
>>1.a4 Ng6 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nxe4 Qd8 4.Qb3 Rh4 5.Qd3 Nf4
>> = (0.22) Depth: 15 00:00:02 4209kN
>>1.a4 Ng6 2.Qf5 Qd8 3.Qg4 Nh4
>> = (0.10) Depth: 18 00:00:12 25132kN
>>1.a4 Ng6 2.Qf5 Qd8 3.a5 Nh4 4.Qf4 Rhe6 5.a6 b5 6.Rec1 h6 7.Nf5
>> = (0.11) Depth: 20 00:01:33 197831kN
>>1.a4 Ng6 2.Qf5 Qd8 3.a5 Nh4 4.Qf4 Rhe6 5.a6 b5 6.Rec1 h6 7.Nf5
>> = (0.11) Depth: 21 00:04:40 569112kN
>>1.a4 Ne6 2.a5 Ng5 3.Qf5 Qxf5 4.Nxf5 Rf6 5.Ng3 Ne4 6.Nxe4 dxe4 7.Rec1 Rb8 8.b4
>> = (0.08) Depth: 22 00:12:02 1451980kN
>>1.Rad1 Ng6 2.e4 Nf4 3.e5 Nxh3+ 4.gxh3 Qxh3 5.Qf5 Qh2+ 6.Kf1 Kf8 7.Qd7 b6 8.Qxa7
>> = (0.09) Depth: 22 00:20:00 1992427kN
>>1.Rad1 Ne6 2.f4 Rg6 3.Qf2 Qd6 4.Rc1 a6 5.Kh2 Rf6 6.f5 h5
>> = (0.02) Depth: 23 00:29:53 3615889kN
>>1.a4 Ne6 2.a5 Ng5 3.Qf5 Qxf5 4.Nxf5 Rf6 5.Ng3 a6 6.f3 Ne6 7.Rec1 Rg6
>> = (0.07) Depth: 23 00:38:59 3890684kN
>>1.Rac1 Ne6 2.f4 Qd8 3.Qf2 a6 4.b4 Nc7 5.f5 Qg5 6.Qf4
>> = (0.10) Depth: 23 00:57:28 1664440kN
>>1.Rac1 Ne6 2.f4 Nc7 3.f5 Nb5 4.Qd3 Nd6 5.b4 g6 6.f6 Nc4 7.e4
>> = (0.04) Depth: 24 01:08:54 4007898kN
>>
>>
>>Fritz 7: 1000 mhz 192 hash
>>1.a4 Ne6 2.a5 a6 3.Qf5 Rf6 4.Qh5 Rh6 5.Qg4 Rg6
>> = (0.13) Depth: 16/36 00:03:34 108920kN
>>1.a4 Ne6 2.a5 a6 3.Qf5 Rf6 4.Qh5 Rh6 5.Qf3 Rg6 6.Rac1 Ng5 7.Qh5 Qc7
>> = (0.13) Depth: 17/38 00:08:46 270741kN
>>1.a4 Ne6 2.a5 Ng5 3.a6 b6 4.Qf5 Qxf5 5.Nxf5 Rg6 6.Ng3 h5 7.Kf1
>> = (0.00) Depth: 18/41 00:26:01 805485kN
>>1.a4 Ne6 2.a5 Ng5 3.a6 b6 4.Qf5 Qxf5 5.Nxf5 Rg6 6.Ng3 h5 7.Kf1 h4
>> = (0.00) Depth: 19/42 00:59:46 1882750kN
>>1.b4!
>> = (0.03) Depth: 19/46 01:35:17 3045092kN
>>1.b4 Ne6 2.Rec1 Rf8 3.Nf5 Rg6 4.Nh4 Rh6 5.Nf3 f6 6.Rab1 Ng5
>> = (0.06) Depth: 20/44 03:19:19 6215767kN
>>kburcham
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