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Subject: Re: very difficult Uri test position

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 06:49:45 02/10/02

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On February 10, 2002 at 09:31:58, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On February 10, 2002 at 05:50:24, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>[massive snip]
>
>>Interesting that both Fritz and shredder did not find Bh3+ in their main line
>>when Bh3+ was played in the game that the position is from it(asi alperopvich
>>was black and he is even not a master):
>>
>>Here is the game line:
>>11...Nxf2 12.Kxf2 Bh4+ 13.g3 f4 14.Kg2 fxg3 15.hxg3
>>Bh3+ 16.Kxh3 Bxg3 17.Bxh7+ Kh8 18.Nf3 Rxf3 19.Rh1 Bf4+ 20.Kg2 Qg5+
>>
>>
>>Yace cannot see positive score for black but after 2 hours it can find the game
>>line
>>
>>I do not know if Bh3+ is the fastest way to win but yace likes it at depth 14.
>>I remember that I verified that 5...Bh3+ is good for black at that time.
>>
>>4.Kg2 fxg3 5.hxg3 Bh3+ 6.Kxh3 Bxg3 7.Nf3 Rxf3 8.Bxh7+ Kh8 9.Kg2 Qf6 10.Re2 Bd6
>>11.Re3 Rf1 12.Bd3 Rf8
>>  ²  (0.62)   Depth: 14   01:55:28  2508868kN
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>[d]r2q1rk1/ppp3pp/2n5/3p4/3P2bb/2PB2P1/PPQN2K1/RNB1R3 b - - 0 1
>
>I only get a 1.35 score, still not convincing.
>
>Ed
>
>===================================
>
>00:00:04.4	-0,24	8	1933560	Bxg3 Bxh7+ Kh8 Rh1 Qf6 Bf5+ Bh4 Ne4
>00:00:06.9	-0,24	9	2931687	Bxg3 Bxh7+ Kh8 Rh1 Qf6 Bf5+ Bh4 Ne4
>00:00:17.4	0,00	10	11121373	Bxg3 Bxh7+ Kh8 Kxg3 Qd6+ Kxg4 Qf4+ Kh3
>00:00:32.8	0,00	11	21639773	Bxg3 Bxh7+ Kh8 Kxg3 Qd6+ Kxg4 Qf4+ Kh3
>00:00:34.6	0,00	11	23698030	Bh3+
>00:00:40.4	0,89	11	27545325	Bh3+ Kxh3 Bxg3 Bxh7+ Kh8 Nf3 Rxf3 Kg2
>00:01:11.4	0,79	12	50211361	Bh3+ Kxh3 Bxg3 Nf3 Rxf3 Kg2 Bxe1 Kxf3
>00:03:30.0	0,79	13	149153567	Bh3+ Kxh3 Bxg3 Nf3 Rxf3 Kg2 Bxe1 Kxf3
>00:14:15.3	1,35	14	594831844	Bh3+ Kxh3 Bxg3 Nf3 Rxf3 Kg2 Qh4 Bxh7+


Yace after some learning got 2.26 score for black

Here is the analysis after Bh3+
Yace change the order of moves because of learning.

Yace learned from the following line Bh3+ Kxh3 Bxg3 Nf3 Rxf3 Kg2 Bxe1 Kxf3

r2q1rk1/ppp3pp/2n5/3p4/3P3b/2PB2Pb/PPQN2K1/RNB1R3 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Yace 0.99.56:

6.Kg1 Bxg3 7.Bxh7+ Kh8
  ±  (1.05)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
6.Kg1 Bxg3 7.Bxh7+ Kh8
  ±  (1.05)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
6.Kh2
  +-  (2.01)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
6.Kh2 Rf5 7.Bxf5
  +-  (2.48)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
6.Kh2 Be7 7.Rxe7 Qxe7 8.Kxh3
  +-  (3.51)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
6.Kh2 Bxg3+ 7.Kxg3
  +-  (3.68)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
6.Kh2 Rf2+ 7.Kxh3 Qc8+ 8.Bf5 Nxd4
  +-  (4.08)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
6.Kh2 Bd7 7.Bf5
  +-  (2.83)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
6.Kh2 Bd7 7.Bxh7+ Kh8
  +-  (2.65)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
6.Kh2 Bxg3+ 7.Kxg3 Qg5+ 8.Kxh3 Qh5+ 9.Kg2 Qg5+ 10.Kh2 Qh4+ 11.Kg2
  +-  (2.88)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
6.Kh2 Bxg3+ 7.Kg1
  +-  (2.06)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  12kN
6.Kh2 Bxg3+ 7.Kh1 Bxe1 8.Bf5
  ±  (1.06)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  12kN
6.Kh2 Bxg3+ 7.Kxg3 Qg5+ 8.Kxh3 Qh5+ 9.Kg3 Qg5+ 10.Kh3 Qxd2 11.Nxd2 Nxd4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  12kN
6.Kg1 Nxd4 7.cxd4 Re8 8.Rxe8+ Qxe8
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  12kN
6.Kg1 Bxg3 7.Bxh7+ Kh8 8.Re2 Qf6
  ±  (0.92)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  12kN
6.Kh1 Nxd4 7.cxd4 Re8 8.Rxe8+ Qxe8
  ±  (0.93)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  12kN
6.Kh1 Bxg3 7.Bxh7+ Kh8 8.Rg1 Bf4
  ±  (1.37)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  12kN
6.Kh1 Bxg3 7.Bxh7+ Kh8 8.Re3 Qg5 9.Re2
  +-  (1.44)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  121kN
6.Kh1 Bxg3 7.Bxh7+ Kh8 8.Re3 Qh4 9.Bd3 Bf1+ 10.Kg1
  ±  (1.28)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  243kN
6.Kh1 Bxg3 7.Bxh7+ Kh8 8.Re3 Qh4 9.Qg6 Bg4+ 10.Kg2 Rf2+ 11.Kg1
  ±  (0.88)   Depth: 8   00:00:01  365kN
6.Kh1 Bxg3 7.Re3 Qh4 8.Nf3 Rxf3 9.Bxh7+ Qxh7 10.Qxh7+ Kxh7 11.Rxf3
  =  (-0.01)   Depth: 8   00:00:01  365kN
6.Kh2 Bxg3+ 7.Kxg3 Qg5+ 8.Kxh3 Kh8
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8   00:00:06  2623kN
6.Kh2 Bxg3+ 7.Kxg3 Qg5+ 8.Kxh3 Qh5+ 9.Kg3 Qg5+ 10.Kh3 Qh5+ 11.Kg3 Qg5+ 12.Kh3
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8   00:00:06  2623kN
6.Kh2 Bxg3+ 7.Kxg3 Qg5+ 8.Kxh3 Rf4 9.Bxh7+ Kh8 10.Re8+ Rxe8 11.Qf5 Rxf5 12.Ne4
  ³  (-0.40)   Depth: 9   00:00:06  2987kN
6.Kh2 Bxg3+ 7.Kxg3 Qg5+ 8.Kxh3 Rf4 9.Nf3 Rxf3+ 10.Kh2 Qg3+ 11.Kh1 Qxe1+ 12.Kh2
Rf2+ 13.Qxf2 Qxf2+ 14.Kh1 Qe1+ 15.Kg2 Qxc1 16.Bf5
  -+  (-6.40)   Depth: 9   00:00:10  3851kN
6.Kh2 Bxg3+ 7.Kh1 Qh4 8.Bxh7+ Kh8 9.Nf3 Rxf3 10.Bg5 Bg2+ 11.Kxg2 Rf2+ 12.Qxf2
Qh2+ 13.Kf3 Qxf2+ 14.Kg4 Qxe1
  -+  (-7.74)   Depth: 9   00:00:26  13066kN
6.Kh1 Bxg3 7.Re3 Qh4 8.Nf3 Rxf3 9.Bxh7+ Kh8 10.Rxf3 Qxh7 11.Qxh7+ Kxh7
  -+  (-7.73)   Depth: 9   00:00:27  13623kN
6.Kh1 Bxg3 7.Bxh7+ Kh8 8.Rd1 Qh4 9.Nf3 Rxf3 10.Bd3 Bf5+ 11.Kg1 Nxd4
  -+  (-2.50)   Depth: 9   00:00:31  15152kN
6.Kxh3 Bxg3 7.Kg2 Bxe1 8.Nf3 Rxf3 9.Kxf3 Qh4 10.Bf4
  -+  (-2.26)   Depth: 9   00:00:36  16700kN
6.Kxh3 Bxg3 7.Kg2 Bxe1 8.Nf3 Rxf3 9.Kxf3 Qh4 10.Bf4
  -+  (-2.26)   Depth: 10   00:00:36  16953kN
6.Kxh3 Bxg3 7.Kg2 Bxe1 8.Nf3 Rxf3 9.Kxf3 Qh4 10.Bf4
  -+  (-2.26)   Depth: 11   00:00:43  19446kN
6.Kxh3 Bxg3 7.Kg2 Bxe1 8.Nf3 Rxf3 9.Kxf3 Qh4 10.Bf4
  -+  (-2.26)   Depth: 12   00:01:04  27099kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 10.02.2002)

Uri



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