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Subject: Re: YATP (Yet Another Test Position).

Author: Roy Eassa

Date: 14:10:09 02/10/02

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On February 10, 2002 at 16:34:56, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On February 09, 2002 at 13:16:57, Roy Eassa wrote:
>
>>On February 09, 2002 at 09:21:02, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>
>>>The position should encourage a nasty knight move according to my newspaper.
>>>
>>>[D]1b2rnk1/6np/p1rqp1pQ/2ppp1N1/6PB/2NP3P/1PP2P2/R3R1K1 w - -
>>
>>
>>Analysis by Fritz 7 (Athlon 1.2):
>>
>>1.Nf3 Nd7 2.Bg3 Qe7 3.Bxe5 Nxe5 4.Nxe5 Bxe5 5.Rxe5 Qf6 6.Qe3 Rf8 7.Ne2
>>  =  (0.22)   Depth: 10/29   00:00:00  243kN
>>1.Nf3 Nd7 2.Bg3 Qe7 3.Bxe5 Nxe5 4.Nxe5 Bxe5 5.Rxe5 Rf8 6.Rae1 Qf6 7.Qe3 h6
>>  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 11/35   00:00:05  2853kN
>>1.Nge4!
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11/35   00:00:10  5500kN
>>1.Nge4!
>>  =  (0.16)   Depth: 11/35   00:00:10  5575kN
>>1.Nge4!
>>  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 11/35   00:00:10  5629kN
>>1.Nge4!
>>  ±  (1.10)   Depth: 11/35   00:00:10  5757kN
>>1.Nge4 dxe4 2.Nxe4 Qd4 3.c3 Qxd3 4.Re3 Qb5 5.Nf6+ Kh8 6.Nxe8 Qb7
>>  +-  (2.29)   Depth: 11/35   00:00:10  5903kN
>>1.Nge4--
>>  +-  (2.00)   Depth: 12/31   00:00:12  6832kN
>>1.Nge4
>>  +-  (2.00)   Depth: 12/32   00:00:12  7065kN
>>1.Nge4 dxe4 2.Nxe4 Qd4 3.c3 Qxd3 4.Re3 Rd8 5.Rxd3 Rxd3 6.Be7 Nd7 7.Bf6
>>  +-  (2.22)   Depth: 13/33   00:00:17  10249kN
>>1.Nge4 dxe4 2.Nxe4 Qd4 3.c3 Qxd3 4.Re3 Rd8 5.Rxd3 Rxd3 6.Be7 c4 7.Bxf8 Kxf8
>>8.Qxh7
>>  +-  (2.41)   Depth: 14/37   00:00:28  17338kN
>>1.Nge4 dxe4 2.Nxe4 Qd4 3.c3 Qxd3 4.Re3 Rd8 5.Rxd3 Rxd3 6.Be7 c4 7.Nf6+ Kf7
>>8.Bxf8
>>  +-  (2.38)   Depth: 15/39   00:01:00  37848kN
>
>
>
>Tiger 14.9 wants to play Nce4 in 149s on my K6-2 450 (96Mb hash), eval +2.84.
>Nge4 never appears as the best move...
>
>Is Nge4 really the best move or is Nce4 working as well?
>


Both moves win.

If black captures the knight with the pawn, there is no difference of course, so
what matters is what happens if black does not do so.  In that case, either
original white move wins easily, but Nce4 may permit black to give up the queen
in a way that slows down the inevitable loss by a bit.



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