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Subject: Re: Interesting statistics from CSS 3/98

Author: Peter Fendrich

Date: 06:28:54 06/25/98

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On June 24, 1998 at 13:08:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 24, 1998 at 08:05:43, Guido Schimmels wrote:
>
>>On June 24, 1998 at 04:33:50, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>>Posted by Jouni Uski on June 24, 1998 at 01:34:38:
>>>
>>>>Latest CSS magazine has list about PC programs market shares (value?):
>>>
>>>>Fritz        50 %
>>>>Genius       20 %
>>>>Chessmaster  20 %
>>>>Rebel         5 %
>>>>Others        5 %
>>>
>>>>Probably list is only for Germany even if it's not told! But market share
>>>>for Mchess,Hiarcs,Nimzo,Shredder is almost zero...
>>>
>>>I did miss this, but believe me CSS is dead wrong here. Just wait for
>>>Steve's new poll.
>>>
>>>- Ed -
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jouni
>>
>>Ed, I think CSS is not dead wrong here concerning the German market, and a CCC
>>poll will not prove otherwise - CCC members are by no means typical customers
>>of computer chess products (but maybe your typical customers ?).
>>Chessmaster has always been a mass market product available in department stores
>>- though the last time I looked I saw Corel Chess (Karstadt dept. store).
>>Fritz has succeded in entering the mass market as well, you can see it in lots
>>of book stores in Germany.
>>But who knows, maybe you are right however and CSS is trying a selffulfilling
>>prophecy :-))
>>
>>As you think the list is horse-hockey (as Bob would call it), I conclude you are
>>perfectly happy with your Rebel sales ?
>>I think I'm not the only one here interested in how many units you sell
>>a year, would you please tell us ! (unless you fear there are tax officers
>>amongst the CCC members ;-) )
>>
>>- Guido -
>
>
>I think CSS is dead wrong, but for a different reason.  They are nuts if they
>think that more people buy fritz, than ChessMaster.  Compare the prices.  Go
>visit Comp USA and find out which one *they* sell.  Chessmaster crushes everyone
>based on such numbers.  I have worked with a couple of local high-school type
>chess clubs, and every one there knew about chessmaster (and battle chess) but
>had not heard of Fritz (too expensive, same for Rebel, Genius, and the others.)
>
>They probably have their own agenda in releasing such a number, but it's not
>near reality around where I live.  Among tournament chess players, yes, I'd
>guess Fritz is clearly #1, with the others selling somewhere behind that.  But
>in total numbers?  Two of my neighbors kids got ChessMaster for christmas, for
>example...
>
>When parents choose between 30 bucks and 100 bucks, there isn't much to choose
>between unless you have a budding Fischer in the house.  :)

Market share to me isn't number of sold products but instead "number of
dollars".
That could maybe better justify the figures?
//Peter



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