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Subject: Re: Variation Board a Joke

Author: Joseph Merolle

Date: 17:43:10 02/12/02

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On February 11, 2002 at 23:13:22, John Merlino wrote:

>On February 11, 2002 at 23:05:30, Tina Long wrote:
>
>>On February 11, 2002 at 21:57:13, Joseph Merolle wrote:
>>
>>>WHat good is a variation board if you cant work with it from blacks perspective?
>>>Can someone also tell me why my engine kicks in when there are still moves in
>>>its tree? Is there a way to stop this or is this something good? It would be so
>>>nice  to get some feedback to often no one respons to posted messages.
>>>
>>>Thanks Joseph Merolle
>>
>>What program are you talking about?  I am guessing you mean Chessmaster.
>>
>>Concerning CM8k I brought up the unturnable variation board (in a "it would be
>>nice if" style - I find that brings better results than the "a joke" method) to
>>John Merlino when CM8k was new.  He accepted my comment as reasonable, but I
>>havn't checked to see if this is included in CM9k.
>>
>>I found with CM8k that the weaker the "Personality" the sooner the engine "kicks
>>in when there are still moves in its tree".  I assumed this was part of the
>>weakening process.
>>
>>I believe CM8k goes all the way to the end of the tree for the CM8k personality.
>>
>>"is this something good" depends entirely on the strength of the book moves.  I
>>think it is reasonable to expect that the CM8k bookmoves are All good and were
>>selected by an, at least, Expert Player.
>>
>>If you are not talking about CM8k I suggest you mention which program you are
>>discussing.
>>
>>Regards
>>Tina
>
>Several comments:
>
>1) Is he really talking about Chessmaster?
>
>2) [ignorant question] What is a "variation board"? Is this another name for the
>"Visual Thinking" window that I've never heard used before?
>
>3) The moves in CM8000.OBK were mostly entered by hand, mostly by copying MCO.
>The rest were added from a PGN file of GM games (in the same way that users can
>now do in CM8000). However, if there are still moves "in the tree" (i.e.
>subsequent moves in the current line) that aren't getting played, then it is
>because they have a zero priority.
>
>4) No, it hasn't YET been included in CM9000. Not sure if it IS going to be
>included either.... I'll know for sure by Beta.
>
>jm

I apologize I am working with F7.


Joseph Merolle



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